Smith and Wesson celebrates opening of $125m HQ in gun-friendly Tennessee

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I hope state officials are happy, actions have consequences
 

I hope state officials are happy, actions have consequences
They’re elated that they “drove out” this evil business from the state. They didn’t seem to mind opening a casino in Springfield, though, which multiplied the crime, drug, and sex trade exponentially in that city since it opened. But, gunz jobs bad! Seriously, they love that S&W left the state. They wouldn’t care if they were the number one employer in the state and left. Gunz bad! Sounds like you may need some re-education my friend!
 
The offices, injection molding and semi auto assembly moved to TN. 99% of parts manufacturing is staying in mass. Still 1000+ jobs in the city so no they didn't "leave"
 
This is true some of S&W is still in Springfield. The Fordge, and ⁹Hardening also Revolver and I think Plating is still in Springfield. Revolver and Plating will most likely be moved in the future. I don't think there are any plans to move foraging or hardening they will most likely stay in Springfield, these two departments are not very employee heavy and the building upkeep and expenses running these two departments will be weighed agesnt sales from foraging and hardening and overall operations costs. So it is possable in a few years S&W in Springfield will only be a memory. S&W was the number three employer in the Springfield area so the area has taken a big economic hit with S&W moving most operations out. The Cassino will not be able to fill the employment void. Baystate Medical/Hospital is the number one employer and Mass Mutual is number two also will not be able to fill the employment needs in the area. Unless Springfield has a really good economic plan the city is doomed. You can already see the downward spiral.
 
The offices, injection molding and semi auto assembly moved to TN. 99% of parts manufacturing is staying in mass. Still 1000+ jobs in the city so no they didn't "leave"
This is like the SIGNES compromise thought process.

The State thinking "we can be a**holes to businesses and keep all these jobs" ... until they leave in a few years, or, they give SW enough breaks and other incentives to stay, which is still a lose situation for the State.
 
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There is almost no manufacturing going on. Revolver CNC parts are still being produced to supply the revolver production line. The revolvers are being assembled by assemblers, not gun smith fitters, this has been made possible through CNC parts because they do not need fitting. It is like just sticking parts together now. The assembly workforce used to be mostly Temps, I am not sure if this is still the case, but it might be. S&W sells out its fordging services and also sells out its hardening services. These departments do not only make S&W parts. The injection molding manufacturing was not even in Springfield it was in Conn. S&W purchased the injection molding company that they had a contract with to produced injection molded parts, mainly frames.
 
"CNC parts because they do not need fitting"

That'll last forever because machine parts never wear
 
From the announcement back in 21: Smith & Wesson headquarters leaving Springfield, moving to Tennessee
The Springfield location will remain operational but will be reconfigured. Several manufacturing operations will remain in Springfield, including forging, machining, metal finishing and assembling revolvers. Smith & Wesson will still have more than 1,000 employees in the state. The company expects roughly 750 jobs will be relocated from Springfield, Connecticut and Missouri to Maryville, Tennessee.

The company says they will also close facilities in Connecticut and Missouri when they make the move in 2023. Smith & Wesson has been based in Springfield since 1852.


While a step in the right direction, Smith and Smith employees will still be paying Mass taxes and therefore paying for anti 2A causes. They'll just be paying less.

This is like celebrating because the Patriots beat the Jets. Sure, it goes in the win column, but is it indicative of how the team can perform?
 
From the announcement back in 21: Smith & Wesson headquarters leaving Springfield, moving to Tennessee



While a step in the right direction, Smith and Smith employees will still be paying Mass taxes and therefore paying for anti 2A causes. They'll just be paying less.

This is like celebrating because the Patriots beat the Jets. Sure, it goes in the win column, but is it indicative of how the team can perform?
After this weekend, using the Pats in any example for 'winning' is a bad idea.

 

I hope state officials are happy, actions have consequences
The question we should all be asking ourselves is why S&W waited so long to move. They should have been out of this miserable state long ago.
 
The offices, injection molding and semi auto assembly moved to TN. 99% of parts manufacturing is staying in mass. Still 1000+ jobs in the city so no they didn't "leave"

Yet that is. I believe I read an article last year stating they will slowly be moving all production out of the state. Will take time to ramp up production elsewhere. Seem to remember a part on them helping key people move to the new state if they want too.
 
Within 5-6 years manufacturing will be gone as well.
Don't doubt everything will be out of mass in X years. No use guessing the number
Let's see how this post ages.
Shit changes all the time. No where in my post did I say it's permanent. Just currently only certain departments are moved with the rest staying "indefinitely" as quoted by the CEO. the whole company will be out of mass in due time.
Yet that is. I believe I read an article last year stating they will slowly be moving all production out of the state. Will take time to ramp up production elsewhere. Seem to remember a part on them helping key people move to the new state if they want too.
Would love to see the article.
 
"Guns are the number #1 killer of kids in all gun related deaths " was too big for the banner so they shortened it a bit.
 
Guns are not the #1 killer of kids. That's outright dishonesty.
Depends on how you define "kids". They use 18 and under in their definition, thereby including a large number of 16-18 year old gang bangers. If you change the definition to 16 and under, the leading cause of death is motor vehicle accidents. For kids under 4 it's drowning.

ETA And of course they include suicide by gun in their statistics, where suicide is the second leading cause of death in those 15-24.
 
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Depends on how you define "kids". They use 18 and under in their definition, thereby including a large number of 16-18 year old gang bangers. If you change the definition to 16 and under, the leading cause of death is motor vehicle accidents. For kids under 4 it's drowning.
I know at least one stat I looked at used numbers up to 21 for 'kids', which tilts it even further.
 
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