Sti trojan cutting it close

Too close to what? I thought 50 ozs was the handgun limit. Is there some kind of weight limit in competition shooting?

After googling I found out it is Enhanced Service Pistol class in IDPA.
 
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A 9mm Trojan with a magwell and empty magazine can be overweight.... where is Knuckledragger?

You can lose weight by removing some of the frame underneath the grips.
 
So by this argument if one were to stick 40 oz worth of lead to the side of a pistol then illegal? I think youre thinking too hard.
 
Squib308 said:
So by this argument if one were to stick 40 oz worth of lead to the side of a pistol then illegal? I think youre thinking too hard.
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What are you talking about?


OP is checking to see if his pistol fits in the requirements of IDPA / USPSA divisions. Some of the divisions have weight limits.
 
SJan said:
A 9mm Trojan with a magwell and empty magazine can be overweight.... where is Knuckledragger?

You can lose weight by removing some of the frame underneath the grips.
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Beat me to it. I saw the thread title and thought of Brent.

ETA: Or was it Chuck Z from New Bedford?
 
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SJan said:
What are you talking about?


OP is checking to see if his pistol fits in the requirements of IDPA / USPSA divisions. Some of the divisions have weight limits.
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Ah thx for clarifying.
my misunderstanding.
i assumed he was referring to the AWB pistol weight BS
 
It's an ed brown steel msh and well. This all got me started bc Brent told me he was overweight at area 7 one time. I might drill off a few grams from the base pads and maybe get some lighter grease!
 
You're fine at 42.6. I'm at 43.5 and that's after changing out the guide rod and cutting out some frame material from under the grip panels. I was right at 43oz. until I put on new grips, and those are really necessary.

I'm at a loss at this point. I'm hoping to find a good gunsmith who can machine some material out of the slide or frame. I don't have a lot of non-invasive options at this point. The ambi-safety only gains me 1/8 oz. If I change to a plastic mainspring housing I lose the magwell - another necessity.

At this point I'm seriously thinking about switching back to Production for Areas 7 & 8 this year.

What I don't understand is why you're weighing much lighter than I am.
 
Definitely check the accuracy of the scale before you start hacking away at anything


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eisenhow said:
Beat me to it. I saw the thread title and thought of Brent.

ETA: Or was it Chuck Z from New Bedford?
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You just want me to stay out of L10! [grin]

Knuckle Dragger said:
You're fine at 42.6. I'm at 43.5 and that's after changing out the guide rod and cutting out some frame material from under the grip panels. I was right at 43oz. until I put on new grips, and those are really necessary.

I'm at a loss at this point. I'm hoping to find a good gunsmith who can machine some material out of the slide or frame. I don't have a lot of non-invasive options at this point. The ambi-safety only gains me 1/8 oz. If I change to a plastic mainspring housing I lose the magwell - another necessity.

At this point I'm seriously thinking about switching back to Production for Areas 7 & 8 this year.

What I don't understand is why you're weighing much lighter than I am.
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Brent- aluminum guide rod and Dawson Ice magwell was all I needed. MSH is aluminum, and it's the best magwell too.
 
drgrant said:
You're getting your wires crossed, these guys are mostly talking about IDPA. In USPSA this gun is probably a "Limited Minor" gun regardless of weight, a lot simpler of a dilemma.

In general USPSA equipment rules are a lot simpler and less ****y. The IDPA rules are often bordering on the bizarre.

The only USPSA equipment rule that irritates me is the aftermarket mag release rule on pistols that run in production. I can't use a vickers release on a Gen3 G34 because it's not an OEM part. So that means I'm stuck with the glock ext release (which is way too long and stabs the shit out of my hand) or the OEM standard release which is too short and I almost have to roll the pistol to dump the mag easily. Thankfully it's not the biggest impediment, I got a ways to go before mag changes mean much in terms of my score.... [rofl]

I'm actually more mad at Glock about this than USPSA folk, though. Glock ****ing has an intermediate release that they supposedly sold to feds and other LE agencies, but for some bizzare reason this intermediate release is a restricted part not to be sold nor distributed commercially. It doesn't make any sense... they could probably sell a shitload of them.

ETA: I post this understanding that I could possibly be wrong about production equipment rules in this regard (I know they change once in awhile) and I would love to be wrong, actually.... [laugh]

-Mike
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My son and I shoot Glocks, he shoots a 34 in production and I use a 35 both Gen 3. We're left handed though so the only part of the mag release that bothered us was the sharp edges,but I sanded those down. So your problem is easily solved! Just shoot lefty!
 
Realtor MA said:
Can't you have the slide machined to lose some weight?
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Depends:APPENDIX D5 — Single-Stack Division
Prohibited modifications and features: Slide lightening, cuts, ports, or any milling deemed to provide a competitive advantage
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If you're lightening the slide for a competitive advantage. If you're doing it make weight restrictions, perhaps not. The problem with the rule is convincing the match director why you've made the modification. Given the rule, it's probably safer to try and take the weight off the frame.
 
In USPSA production you may use an aftermarket mag release, provided that it extends only the length and not the size of the button.

An external part which extends only the length of the magazine-release button is specifically allowed in section 21.6 of the 2009 interpretation, whether the part is OEM or aftermarket. If the part provides a larger surface area (a big head, a button, a paddle, etc) or is different than the original part in any dimension other than length, the part is only permitted if it is an OEM part available on an approved model of gun.
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Flat topping or even tried topping a slide saves a ton of weight, and is considered cosmetic, and ok for Singlestack USPSA,. Not sure about IDPA
 
USPSA single stack and carry optics have not to exceed limits.

Production has a <= +2 ozs over list weight

They are in the appendix

Also Mike does the Vickers release fit the latest interpretation?

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17) I have an approved Production Division gun, and the manufacturer now offers a cool mag-release button on their “custom shop” versions of that gun. Can I use that mag-release button, since it is “an OEM part”?

ANSWER: It depends. An external part which extends only the length of the magazine-release button is specifically allowed in section 21.6 of the 2009 interpretation, whether the part is OEM or aftermarket. If the part provides a larger surface area (a big head, a button, a paddle, etc) or is different than the original part in any dimension other than length, the part is only permitted if it is an OEM part available on an approved model of gun.

Note that an internal modification to a magazine-release mechanism which results in shifting the magazine-release laterally (i.e., making the part stick out further on one side of the gun) would be considered an “internal modification”, and is allowed.

Also note that parts from “custom shop” guns are only considered “OEM parts” if the “custom shop” model is on the NROI list of approved guns. If NROI has not certified the “custom shop” gun for USPSA Production Division, using a custom-shop part may be an “external modification”, resulting in a “new/unapproved model” which would be illegal for USPSA Production Division. Contact NROI for an official ruling before switching to the new part.
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tysdad115 said:
My son and I shoot Glocks, he shoots a 34 in production and I use a 35 both Gen 3. We're left handed though so the only part of the mag release that bothered us was the sharp edges,but I sanded those down. So your problem is easily solved! Just shoot lefty!
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Yeah but I don't think you're supposed to modify the parts, though, otherwise it's just as "verboten" as running a non factory part. I realize in the same token, that the matches I am likely to attend nobody will ever give a rats ass, but I like to try to stick to the rules with these things.

ETA: It would appear with the interpretation cited, that I'm probably wrong...

-Mike
 
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