Supreme Court - NYSRPA v. Bruen - Megathread

Toast said:
Isn't it, though? You use your off hand to pull the rifle forward, but it's still your finger pulling the trigger (when you pull the trigger into that finger).
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I worded that poorly.

The point I tried to make was that the trigger finger stays still, braced against the bump stock. The off hand pulls the trigger by forcing the rifle forward.

I guess the trigger finger activates the trigger without “pulling” it as such.
 
Ten day stay so that CA can appeal to the 9th Circuit.
Maybe a year before we hear from a three judge panel.
And either way they rule the loser is then going to appeal to the full circuit.
So, wake me in 1-1/2 to 2 years when we learn which way this is really going to go.

But yes a moral victory is nice.

🐯
 
CatSnoutSoup said:
Ten day stay so that CA can appeal to the 9th Circuit.
Maybe a year before we hear from a three judge panel.
And either way they rule the loser is then going to appeal to the full circuit.
So, wake me in 1-1/2 to 2 years when we learn which way this is really going to go.

But yes a moral victory is nice.

🐯
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I don't even see it as a moral victory. As the saying goes a right delayed is a right denied and the libs play the long game and use bullshit tactics to beat us every time. Anyone who thinks otherwise just isn't paying attention or is too hopeful there will be a peaceful ending to all of this crap.
 
The Anti scumbags are absolutely playing the long game here. The more these cases bounce around in the lower courts staying out of the Supreme Court, the older justices like Thomas and Alito get and seeing the scumbag uniparty now make sure elections are firmly decided by them then idiots like a Biden will always win and certainly will replace Thomas and Alito with a Kennedy or a Kagan and the 2nd will be destroyed forever
 
I think this is a good win for the 2A community. Will California appeal this to a 3 Judge Panel then to the En-Banc? absolutely they will. A ruling like this plainly puts a shot across the bow of anti-gunners everywhere. You know the 1st Circuit is reading his decision and biting their fingernails. Just wait for his (benitez) AWB decision to come out, that'll make people shit their pants.
 
Yup. Just keep waiting. 2 more weeks. Your 2nd amendment rights will be restored and never infringed again. Just keep waiting. :rolleyes: There is no recourse against the politicians who keep making new laws or presidential executive orders that are unconstitutional. We just have to try to sue and work the way through the courts each time. So they do it over and over again.
 
Picton said:
Wow. Some of you are already so defeated that even a clear win makes you shit your pants. Might as well give up your guns now and beat the rush.

I've got room in my safe; PM me.
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I think you are misinterpreting what we say as being defeated. Many of us just aren't sitting around being cheerleaders for a broken court system and the political hacks we have running things. Even more so in this shit state and the surrounding ones. Look at 4420 and the laws passed in RI and CT the last few years. They don't give a shit about Bruen and it shows.
 
cstockwell said:
I think you are misinterpreting what we say as being defeated. Many of us just aren't sitting around being cheerleaders for a broken court system and the political hacks we have running things. Even more so in this shit state and the surrounding ones. Look at 4420 and the laws passed in RI and CT the last few years. They don't give a shit about Bruen and it shows.
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Lol. Then what's your fix? The courts are what we have in this country, like it or not. It took almost a century to get this bad; it's not going to be fixed anytime soon. That's what happens when people let things creep downhill: the creep back up takes longer. Unless you're in favor of taking up arms and declaring Go Time, at which point I'd ask what you're waiting on.

The whining gets old, that's all.
 
Picton said:
Lol. Then what's your fix? The courts are what we have in this country, like it or not. It took almost a century to get this bad; it's not going to be fixed anytime soon. That's what happens when people let things creep downhill: the creep back up takes longer. Unless you're in favor of taking up arms and declaring Go Time, at which point I'd ask what you're waiting on.

The whining gets old, that's all.
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Right back to your old standby when someone doesn't agree with your view of the court system and saying then go start a civil war...what are you waiting on? That shit is getting old from you too.

My solution is to move to where things are better if someone really wants to enjoy more freedoms in their life. I already have another place in northern NH. I understand some people choose other things in their lives to keep them in the location and situation they are in. That is their life choice and I have no issues with it. Make your life choices and sit here and ponder, reflect and discuss it all until that boot on your throat keeps getting pushed down harder. It isn't just 2nd Amendment issues involved here either.
 
cstockwell said:
Right back to your old standby when someone doesn't agree with your view of the court system and saying then go start a civil war...what are you waiting on? That shit is getting old from you too.

My solution is to move to where things are better if someone really wants to enjoy more freedoms in their life. I already have another place in northern NH. I understand some people choose other things in their lives to keep them in the location and situation they are in. That is their life choice and I have no issues with it. Make your life choices and sit here and ponder, reflect and discuss it all until that boot on your throat keeps getting pushed down harder. It isn't just 2nd Amendment issues involved here either.
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I support that. Making your choice is your prerogative. But it's not worthwhile to shit on the choices of others or comment on their "boot," nor on their faith in a court system you've abandoned. You have no idea why they're making those choices; don't presume you do.
 
Picton said:
I support that. Making your choice is your prerogative. But it's not worthwhile to shit on the choices of others or comment on their "boot." You have no idea why they're making them; don't presume you do.
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I agree. Which is why I said that is their life choices and I personally have no issues with it. But that boot is still here in these certain states and it is not going away anytime soon.
 
PeterC said:
He's getting hammered in the comments. One of the best:

"So if you need a constitutional amendment for your laws to exist, that means your laws are unconstitutional."
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This was my reply, before I saw others. (Was in signal hell today, just came back to civilization)

"Perhaps I don't fully understand these things because I am not a politician, but last I checked, if you require a Constitutional Amendment to make your laws pass Constitutional muster, doesn't that mean the laws are unconstitutional without the amendment?"
 
Picton said:
Wow. Some of you are already so defeated that even a clear win makes you shit your pants. Might as well give up your guns now and beat the rush.

I've got room in my safe; PM me.
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People want an easy button for freedom, but the price for it is eternal vigilance.

It's an endless period of lawfare, it only has an intermission when the two sides go to war and one side annihilates the other.
 
cstockwell said:
I think you are misinterpreting what we say as being defeated. Many of us just aren't sitting around being cheerleaders for a broken court system and the political hacks we have running things. Even more so in this shit state and the surrounding ones. Look at 4420 and the laws passed in RI and CT the last few years. They don't give a shit about Bruen and it shows.
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The People are not obliged to obey laws that violate the Constitution and in fact are encouraged to disobey unconstitutional laws.

But most people today are pussies and do what they're told, like wear a mask or take a jab.
 
T-Unit said:
The People are not obliged to obey laws that violate the Constitution and in fact are encouraged to disobey unconstitutional laws.

But most people today are pussies and do what they're told, like wear a mask or take a jab.
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We are already at war, but one side isn’t shooting back!
 
FEDERAL JUDGE GRANTS PARTIAL
INJUNCTION IN MARYLAND CASE

BELLEVUE, WA – A U.S. District Court judge in Maryland has granted in part a motion for a preliminary injunction in two cases—including one involving the Second Amendment Foundation—challenging Maryland’s “sensitive places” law, which is supposed to take effect Sunday.

The case, known as Novotny v. Moore, was filed earlier this year against the law, which places broad restrictions on where a legally-licensed private citizen may carry a firearm for personal protection. The decision by Judge George L. Russell, III consolidates the Novotny case with another action known as Kipke v. Moore.

Under the judge’s order, Maryland is enjoined from enforcing laws restricting the carrying of firearms in locations selling alcohol, private buildings or property without the owner’s consent, and within 1,000 feet of a public demonstration. However, he left intact the prohibitions on carry in health care facilities, school grounds, government buildings, museums, state parks and state forests, casinos, mass transit facilities, stadiums, racetracks, and amusement parks.

“This is certainly a good sign from the court,” said SAF Executive Director Adam Kraut. “We look forward to pursuing this case to a favorable conclusion.”

“We’re encouraged by Judge Russell’s order,” added SAF founder and Executive Vice President Alan M. Gottlieb. “Maryland is one of a handful of states that have adopted new statutes designed specifically to get around the U.S. Supreme Court’s ruling in the 2022 Bruen case, by spreading a very wide blanket over areas where lawful concealed carry is prohibited. This is a signal that sort of legislative waltzing is in trouble.”

SAF is joined in the case by Maryland Shall Issue, the Firearms Policy Coalition and three private citizens, all of whom possess “wear and carry permits,” including Susan Burke of Reisterstown, Esther Rossberg of Baltimore, and Katherine Novotny of Aberdeen, for whom the lawsuit is named. They are represented by attorneys David H. Thompson and Peter A. Patterson at Cooper & Kirk in Washington, D.C., Mark W. Pennak at Maryland Shall Issue in Baltimore, and Matthew Larosiere from Lake Worth, Fla.
 

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