Supreme Court - NYSRPA v. Bruen - Megathread

[MaverickNH]

Bipartisan Gun Bill Advances in Senate

A bipartisan group of senators released much-anticipated legislation that could represent the first major federal change to gun laws in decades.

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The bill appears to cost out at $2.05 billion which, if spread over the 131,000 K-12 schools, amounts to $15.6k per school. That won’t do diddly squat. The meat isn’t prevention, it’s more gun laws.

“Sen. Marco Rubio (R., Fla.) balked at the urgency to pass the bill. “We are being asked to vote tonight to begin debate on a gun proposal whose legislative text was only made available less than an hour ago,” he said in a tweet.”

 

[VetteGirlMA]

Well looks like the Casey and Bruen cases will get released on Thursday just in time for the justices to get out of town.

 

[eboos]

That cunning plan didn't work for the SJC on stun guns...

I just had a 2014 case of possession of a stun gun. It was in default, and just brought in. As soon as I got the case I submitted a handwritten motion to dismiss based on Ramirez v. Comm., 479 Mass. 331 (2018) (invalidating M.G.L. c. 140 s. 131J as the total prohibition on civilian stungun possession is a violation of the 2nd amendment). The prosecutor offered Guilty, $750 fine prior to my handing him a copy of the motion. Needless to say, we didn't take the deal.

 

[MaverickNH]

NYSRPA v. Bruen and the Future of the Sensitive Places Doctrine | Duke Center for Firearms Law

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The anti-gun advocates are moving onto the post-Bruen strategy to say - yes, CCW is permitted, just not here, here, here, here, when, when, when, when, who, who, who, who...

 

[SFC13557]

NYSRPA v. Bruen and the Future of the Sensitive Places Doctrine | Duke Center for Firearms Law

firearmslaw.duke.edu

The anti-gun advocates are moving onto the post-Bruen strategy to say - yes, CCW is permitted, just not here, here, here, here, when, when, when, when, who, who, who, who...

Yup, they're desperate because they realize the Court has been flipped by the Trump appointees and they can't rely on it to uphold their radical agenda anymore.

 

[Dench]

NYSRPA v. Bruen and the Future of the Sensitive Places Doctrine | Duke Center for Firearms Law

firearmslaw.duke.edu

The anti-gun advocates are moving onto the post-Bruen strategy to say - yes, CCW is permitted, just not here, here, here, here, when, when, when, when, who, who, who, who...

And you can't carry X gun with Y feature with Z bullet type.

Cases like Bruen are a waste of time. The Left is way ahead of this shit.

 

[SFC13557]

I just had a 2014 case of possession of a stun gun. It was in default, and just brought in. As soon as I got the case I submitted a handwritten motion to dismiss based on Ramirez v. Comm., 479 Mass. 331 (2018) (invalidating M.G.L. c. 140 s. 131J as the total prohibition on civilian stungun possession is a violation of the 2nd amendment). The prosecutor offered Guilty, $750 fine prior to my handing him a copy of the motion. Needless to say, we didn't take the deal.

Good for you and your client!

 

[Rob Boudrie]

NYSRPA v. Bruen and the Future of the Sensitive Places Doctrine | Duke Center for Firearms Law

firearmslaw.duke.edu

The anti-gun advocates are moving onto the post-Bruen strategy to say - yes, CCW is permitted, just not here, here, here, here, when, when, when, when, who, who, who, who...

That would really piss of the people in NYC who are important enough to get carry permits.

 

[Rob Boudrie]

I just had a 2014 case of possession of a stun gun. It was in default, and just brought in. As soon as I got the case I submitted a handwritten motion to dismiss based on Ramirez v. Comm., 479 Mass. 331 (2018) (invalidating M.G.L. c. 140 s. 131J as the total prohibition on civilian stungun possession is a violation of the 2nd amendment). The prosecutor offered Guilty, $750 fine prior to my handing him a copy of the motion. Needless to say, we didn't take the deal.

So, how did it turn out in the end?

 

[Hoover]

And you can't carry X gun with Y feature with Z bullet type.

Cases like Bruen are a waste of time. The Left is way ahead of this shit.

The DC city council passed a lot of restrictions after a similar case as the NYSRPA one. The courts struck down most of those restrictions. The court needs to defend the decision by striking down the BS afterwards.

We don’t know how this court will react because the 6-3 court is so new. Thus far they seem to not be timid.

 

[Hoover]

Well looks like the Casey and Bruen cases will get released on Thursday just in time for the justices to get out of town.

There are still 13 cases to issue opinions on. I seriously doubt they’ll issue 13 in one day. I would expect another opinion day to be added.

 

[Wooderson]

They added Friday as a decision day.

 

[VetteGirlMA]

There are still 13 cases to issue opinions on. I seriously doubt they’ll issue 13 in one day. I would expect another opinion day to be added.

Thursday is the end of the current session. They are out of runway now.

 

[eboos]

So, how did it turn out in the end?

Dismissed

 

[VetteGirlMA]

Yup, they're desperate because they realize the Court has been flipped by the Trump appointees and they can't rely on it to uphold their radical agenda anymore.

It's going to be endless baloney until Bloomberg is long dead and the money is all spent so the gun grabbers have no money. Until then the opinion pieces will be "An important legal question, can you carry a weapon outside the home on February 29th of a leap year when it's raining or snowing? Important questions for the courts".

"Does carrying a weapon at a gas station cause more car fires? Surprising shock poll says yes"

etc etc etc. It will just endless nit picking while the country continues unabated flushing itself down the toilet.

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

Thursday is the end of the current session. They are out of runway now.

We don’t know that. The term ends when all the decisions are entered. Traditionally that’s by the end of June, but not always.

 

[Dadstoys]

That would really piss of the people in NYC who are important enough to get carry permits.

That and paid the huge bribes.

 

[Waher]

That would really piss of the people in NYC who are important enough to get carry permits.

How did NYC treat all the Taxi Medallion holders when Uber & whatnot upended that market?

 

[Hoover]

We don’t know that. The term ends when all the decisions are entered. Traditionally that’s by the end of June, but not always.

Where they added Friday and there is nothing scheduled for next week, Friday will probably be the end of this term.

 

[FrugalFannie]

We don’t know that. The term ends when all the decisions are entered. Traditionally that’s by the end of June, but not always.

so they could hold the most controversial decisions until, say, July 1st, which leads into a huge holiday weekend.

 

[Hoover]

so they could hold the most controversial decisions until, say, July 1st, which leads into a huge holiday weekend.

They make their rules, they can release them when they feel like it. Amy Howe from SCOTUSBLOG just said she expects we’ll go into next week. She’s the main person at SCOTUSBLOG and follows the court as much as anyone.

 

[Hoover]

SCOTUSBLOG is live blogging SCOTUSblog - Independent News & Analysis on the U.S. Supreme Court
First opinion released. 8-1 with sotomayor in the dissent. A question involving weather the legislature could intervene to defend a voter ID law. Sotomayor has been in the dissent 19 times this term. The most by any by a decent amount. Kavanaugh and Roberts have been in the majority all but 1 time.

 

[Goliathan]

Here we go. I'm not expecting it today, but I'm willing to be surprised

 

[Rob Boudrie]

How did NYC treat all the Taxi Medallion holders when Uber & whatnot upended that market?

Taxi drivers are not important people like those who qualify for NYC carry permits are.

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

They make their rules, they can release them when they feel like it. Amy Howe from SCOTUSBLOG just said she expects we’ll go into next week. She’s the main person at SCOTUSBLOG and follows the court as much as anyone.

In order to finish this week, they'd have to release 13 opinions in two days.........

 

[Hoover]

They release by least seniority. Gorsuch as the first indicates only Barrett and kavanaugh will have opinions today.

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

Some great advice I got awhile back was to read the dissent(s) first, especially when I'm likely to agree with the majority. For me, this helps frame the entire set of arguments and helps me better understand the majority opinion.

 

[Hoover]

In order to finish this week, they'd have to release 13 opinions in two days.........

If they’re ready for release, I’d release the 13 and be done lol. We’ll be back here next Monday though

 

[Knuckle Dragger]

They release by least seniority. Gorsuch as the first indicates only Barrett and kavanaugh will have opinions today.

reverse seniority. Barrett and Kavanugh will NOT have opinions today.

 

[Drix]

He's one of the biggest racists still on the site, you shouldn't be surprised.



I think the name "Juneteenth" is dumb but otherwise I too think it's perfectly appropriate to celebrate the end of legal slavery.

What ever happened to emancipation day?