Thanks Joe,
I thought this "Stuff" was a current event /brand new topic when I posted this thread.
I now realize that you have been teaching this stuff in new england for years.
I think the guys in new york rely way to much on stuff insted of learning skills. Stuff is essential but it runs out. if you learn skills you can get stuff.
those guys look like they would be red meat if TSHTF to the street.