Ted Cruz, GOP lawmakers urge SCOTUS to end 'Mexico's assault on our Second Amendment'

[Reptile]

The high court has set oral arguments for Smith & Wesson v Mexico for February 2025​

FIRST ON FOX: Texas GOP Sen. Ted Cruz, along with other Republican Congress members, filed an amicus brief in support of U.S. gun manufacturers, urging the Supreme Court "to uphold American Sovereignty and the Second Amendment."

The case, Smith & Wesson Brands, Inc. v. Estados Unidos Mexicanos, stems from a lawsuit filed in 2021 by the Mexican government, in which the government alleged U.S. gun manufacturers, like Smith & Wesson, Ruger and others, should be liable for gun violence carried out by cartels south of the border, because the companies were allegedly aware their firearms were being trafficked into the country.

"I am leading this amicus brief to uphold American sovereignty and our Second Amendment. The lawsuit filed by Mexico seeks to trample on our Constitution," Cruz told Fox News Digital. "I look forward to the Supreme Court ending this madness, putting an end to Mexico’s assault on our Second Amendment, and sending a clear message that American sovereignty will not be eroded by any country."

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Ted Cruz, GOP lawmakers urge SCOTUS to end 'Mexico's assault on our Second Amendment'

Sen. Ted Cruz, joined by other GOP Congress members, is urging the U.S. Supreme Court "to uphold American Sovereignty and the Second Amendment" in a new amicus filed in support of U.S. gun manufacturers.

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[Mesatchornug]

if only there was a thread about this already. oh, wait...

Thread 'Mexico Sues US Gun Manufacturers'

Aug 4, 2021

Wow! Talk about projecting blame!

Mexico sues US gun manufacturers over arms trafficking toll

The Mexican government is suing U.S. gun manufacturers and distributors, arguing that their commercial practices have unleashed tremendous bloodshed in Mexico

abcnews.go.com

That shithole country can pound flour (into tortillas for me to eat).

They should be suing the Obama administration and Eric Holder instead.

Can we counter sue them for every COVID infested migrant that crosses our border and votes democrat?

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[HARRYM]

if only there was a thread about this already. oh, wait...

Thread 'Mexico Sues US Gun Manufacturers'

Aug 4, 2021

Wow! Talk about projecting blame!

Mexico sues US gun manufacturers over arms trafficking toll

The Mexican government is suing U.S. gun manufacturers and distributors, arguing that their commercial practices have unleashed tremendous bloodshed in Mexico

abcnews.go.com

That shithole country can pound flour (into tortillas for me to eat).

They should be suing the Obama administration and Eric Holder instead.

Can we counter sue them for every COVID infested migrant that crosses our border and votes democrat?

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The search function here is like throwing darts at the wall blindfolded.

 

[Mesatchornug]

The search function here is like throwing darts at the wall blindfolded.

Seriously? I searched "Mexico sues" and title only. There were like four hits, including the linked thread where we started taking about this when it happened.

Somehow, I almost never have a problem finding these threads, and I'm about a half step above your average LLM in general intelligence...

 

[HARRYM]

Seriously? I searched "Mexico sues" and title only. There were like four hits, including the linked thread where we started taking about this when it happened.

Somehow, I almost never have a problem finding these threads, and I'm about a half step above your average LLM in general intelligence...

Oh dear.....I was afraid of that as this means I am a half step below your average LLM...........

Sometimes I find things in search but more often than not I don't.

 

[In God We Trust]

Oh dear.....I was afraid of that as this means I am a half step below your average LLM...........

Sometimes I find things in search but more often than not I don't.

What is an LLM?

 

[HARRYM]

What is an LLM?

I "believe" master of laws.

 

[Mesatchornug]

What is an LLM?

I "believe" master of laws.

In this case, I meant "Large Language Model," e.g. ChatGPT

 

[MaverickNH]

https://wapo.st/4io4XhR

“…the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has found that at least two-thirds of the roughly 30,000 weapons *seized in Mexico and sent for tracing* per year originated in the United States.”

The key point is *seized in Mexico AND sent for tracing*. Years ago, it was revealed that Mexico only sends a small fraction of guns seized to the US for tracing, as most guns seized clearly come from other countries. Many are not identified by serial number or stamped with country of origin, as China and Russia are exempted from that requirement by a UN treaty the US has not signed.

Three Pinocchios for misleading by omission and obfuscation.

 

[ThePreBanMan]

Not only should Mexico lose, but the gun manufacturers should also counter-sue to recover legal expenses.


I would tell Mexico - it seems like you have a security problem at your border. Maybe you want to think about dealing with that... you know.... kind of like we've been asking you to. Oh, that's right... The cartels have bought and paid off half of your government. That's why you don't want to fix your border issues....

 

[MaverickNH]

Opinion | A Lawsuit Targeting Gun Makers Would Hit Us All

The Supreme Court case of Smith & Wesson v. Mexico targets the age-old legal doctrine of ‘proximate cause.’

www.wsj.com

”A district judge dismissed Mexico’s lawsuit, but the First U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals reinstated it, holding that Mexico plausibly alleged that the defendants were “aiding and abetting” unlawful gun sales by independent, downstream dealers and were the “proximate cause” of the harms suffered by the Mexican government from drug cartel violence. The Supreme Court hears oral arguments on Tuesday in Smith & Wesson v. Mexico.”

As Ted Kopel notes: ”…the broader context of the case is that presidents of Mexico … are part of a long tradition of incompetent and/or repressive Latin American governments attempting to deflect popular wrath about the government's malfeasance by blaming the Yanquis.”

 

[Kevin_NH]

Justice Alito: "Could states sue Mexico for the crime/mayhem caused by cartels?"
Mexico's Lawyer: "if Mexico is brought in as a defendant so I can't and certainly uh don't don't feel comfortable giving away things like sovereign immunity on behalf of the government of Mexico"
Justice Alito: "So it's a one-way street?"

 

[frenchman]

Here’s an idea: families of fentanyl victims should sue Mexico for conspiracy to deal drugs. Their government has turned a bling eye to, and facilitated cartel activities for decades now.