Yeah, I used to think of Remington as one of those "gold standard iconic gun companies", now after hearing this, and the problems that have apparently surfaced with the M700, I am beginning to have my doubts.
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Yeah, I used to think of Remington as one of those "gold standard iconic gun companies", now after hearing this, and the problems that have apparently surfaced with the M700, I am beginning to have my doubts.
Garys
NES Member
One of the nice things about a 10/22 is that there are a trillion parts to customize it. As someone pointed out, the magazine release and bolt release should be replaced because they are sub optimal. After that, anything you want to do is optional. Or you can just shoot it as is.
Or you can set it up as a Liberty Training Rifle and spend some money to take an Appleseed course. You'll have a fun time learning how to shoot a rifle accurately.
The 10/22 has next to no recoil and is a joy to shoot. You can buy them new or used and in a number of different variations.
The M1 Carbine stock kit is about $100.00, which is why I haven't got one yet. Actually that and the fact that I'd have to buy a blued version of the 10/22 because it wouldn't look right in stainless.
Or you can set it up as a Liberty Training Rifle and spend some money to take an Appleseed course. You'll have a fun time learning how to shoot a rifle accurately.
The 10/22 has next to no recoil and is a joy to shoot. You can buy them new or used and in a number of different variations.
The M1 Carbine stock kit is about $100.00, which is why I haven't got one yet. Actually that and the fact that I'd have to buy a blued version of the 10/22 because it wouldn't look right in stainless.
namedpipes
NES Member
The newer mag paddle is ok.
Replace the bolt release and the sights, as my minimum upgrade.
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Replace the bolt release and the sights, as my minimum upgrade.
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named , the version im looking at is before the HK lawsuit, its got the old style sights, not the cut out , i would definitely swap out the 3 screws for the hk pushpins, and then throw on a clawmount and a red dot/ reflex. the last thing for now would be to swap out the stock cap, and throw on one that has a sling mount
Both myself, my brother and my dad have also had a bunch of problems with Remington 22lr. Tons of duds and under powered rounds. It's just not worth buying when practically 5-10% of the rounds don't go boom.
Lip
Army Veteran
That was me. Before I replaced the parts it sucked. Now with the previous mentioned parts changed and a new heavy barrel and stock its one of my favorites.
![[grin]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/041.gif "Grin [grin]")
Queen Bee posted: found out the remington cartridge size .243.. way too much to be plinking around with , especially with my easybruise shoulders lol..
.243 is easy on the shoulder but yes it is too much for plinking with.
.243 is easy on the shoulder but yes it is too much for plinking with.
namedpipes
NES Member
Not sure about his, but on *mine* all the parts I swapped out were in the rifle.
I used the Liberty Training Rifle thread here on NES as a shopping list. I did NOT change the extractor because I guess my fingers are too fat or something. It wouldn't work/fit properly so I swapped back in the factory part. Most of the new parts came from Midway I think.
Well I wouldn't go as far as to say the whole company isn't what they used to be... I don't know anything about the M700 issues... but I do know that the 597 rifle line sucks big time.
Weren't the 700 issues related to amateur/hack trigger jobs by people that weren't qualified to be working on them? I think there was a story about it a while back about PDs with issues on their guns, not 100% sure though.
The 10/22 is definitely a great choice, and as Lip said they're really easy to modify. The only factory piece I kept for my 10/22 is the receiver and bolt, did all the work in my basement.
The 10/22 is definitely a great choice, and as Lip said they're really easy to modify. The only factory piece I kept for my 10/22 is the receiver and bolt, did all the work in my basement.
Ahh very interesting, thanks for the link to the article.
TBalls
NES Member
It helps to get both sides of the story.......
http://www.remington700.tv/fileadmin/pdfs/point-by-point-response.pdf
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So Ive Narrowed it down to 2 choices.. help me decide, i tried th usp lem , the glock 17, and 19 gen 4's and came out glock 17 on top, i tried the marlin 22 as well, i love .22's easy to shoot, and its the caliber i'll be sticking with in the rifles , i tried the 223 and it was too much for me, so 22 it is . so its down to the glock 17 gen 4, or the GSG PK, i already know i want both, but im thinking i should hold out on the gsg pk and check out other .22's for now, and buy the 17 as my HD gun. the other option for a rifle, more likely a pistol carbine i would go for , maybe in the future when i have money falling from the heavens, a mp5K, or a Kriss Super V, in my future. and im hoping the recoil from those would be less than a .223 caliber.
I bet some proper instruction on rifle technique would help alleviate that issue for you. Pull the stock in tight against your shoulder, take a more aggressive stance leaning into the rifle to mitigate the recoil, .22s and .223s (unless it's a bolt gun, maybe) shouldn't be marking you up.
Enjoy that G17, I wish I knew people that had Gen 4s!![[wink]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/002.gif "Wink [wink]")
ETA: I mean professional instruction, just offering a couple tips, I in no way claim to be a pro![[laugh]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/012.gif "Laugh [laugh]")
Enjoy that G17, I wish I knew people that had Gen 4s!
ETA: I mean professional instruction, just offering a couple tips, I in no way claim to be a pro
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