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joe6486 said:Fair enough. Has someone else tested it?
Cross-X said:What JonJ may be referring to may go something like this:
Even if you are correct, and a judge agrees that a locked glovebox or center console is proper secure storage in accord with MA law, you will not have the chance to get to that point until you have been criminally charged, possibly arrested, hired a lawyer, and spent many days in court, and likely had to submit to the risks of a trial, by judge or jury.
For most of us the potential for financial loss and embarassment is not worth the hassle. Securely store your unloaded firearm locked in a trunk, locked in a case, or locked in some other secure container other than a glovebox or center console.
Darius Arbabi
ChristosX said:Good question. What exactly is the definition of "loaded"? Does an adjacent but separate full mag constitute loaded? How about a speedloader? This question has ramifications in areas other than automobile storage.
Chris
traveler57 said:Again, for all the myths and grandmother's tales that we see or hear here and on the internet, please read this good article about how CCW can be LEGAL in a Post Office.
http://www.thegunzone.com/rkba/rtc-usps.html
The part I like to this story is that the little sign hanging on the Post Office wall only has part of the federal law and it (conveniently) leaves out the important "exceptions." And since I don't not believe that there is a MA state law prohibiting CCW in Post Offices, the fed law allows legal LTC A holders to legally carry in a Post Office.
Right? Did I miss something here?
drgrant said:The problem with the post office thing, is that there is no
test case. I don't know about you, but I don't want to be
the test case. It's too ambigious and contradictory to rely
upon. For every lawyer that says its legal (like Firillo in the
article) youll run into another one that says it isnt..... a little too
murky for my taste.
-Mike
Coyote33 said:I didn't mean the typo. You really carry a copy of a law around with you? No foolin'?
Coyote33 said:@Pilgrim: You are kidding, right?
So if you shoot your carry gun at the range, make sure that you have at least one round left when you go home!NOTE: It is not clear whether the legislature
intended to allow persons with a Class A LTC to carry
a loaded firearm under their direct control in a vehicle
but not an unloaded one. However, as written, the
law seems to permit someone with a Class A LTC to
wear a loaded firearm in a vehicle, but makes it a
crime to do so without bullets in the gun. Once the
bullets are removed, the firearm must be locked in the
trunk or locked in a secure container.
Pilgrim said:About what? Having a copy with me?
Yeah, I have a copy of it in my wallet. Doesn't take much room. It just came in handy to quote the law to you guys, so I guess it was worth having there.
I'm with Ken and Lynne on this one.
Pilgrim said:Damn, I feel left out.