Verdict against Sig Sauer

[blindndead]

So guns do just go off all by themselves? WTF?

Judge upholds $2.35M verdict against Sig Sauer over pistol shooting in Georgia

The payout marked the first time the New Hampshire firearms manufacturer had been found negligent by a jury for a P320 pistol unintentionally discharging.

www.nhpr.org

after he suffered a serious gunshot wound to his thigh in 2018 while removing the gun from its holster. The payout marked the first time the firearms manufacturer, based in Newington, had been found negligent by a jury for a P320 unintentionally discharging.

 

[dcmdon]

The crazy thing is that the plaintiff agrees that something caused the trigger to be pulled.

They are arguing against the absence of a manual safety.

This isn't like other 320 suits that allege that the gun went off without any motion of the trigger. This essentially acknowledges that this was a negligent discharge. But says it shouldn't have happened because the gun should have had a manual safety.

That's absurd.
The gun functioned exactly as designed., With a round in the chamber and the trigger depressed it discharged a shot. It's also exactly how hundreds of other firearms work.

 

[PappyM3]

The crazy thing is that the plaintiff agrees that something caused the trigger to be pulled.

They are arguing against the absence of a manual safety.

This isn't like other 320 suits that allege that the gun went off without any motion of the trigger. This essentially acknowledges that this was a negligent discharge. But says it shouldn't have happened because the gun should have had a manual safety.

That's absurd.
The gun functioned exactly as designed., With a round in the chamber and the trigger depressed it discharged a shot. It's also exactly how hundreds of other firearms work.

Yup, this one is one of those “money grubbing” cases Sig mentioned. But it isn’t evidence of the P320 being mechanically sound.

 

[HorizontalHunter]

Yes, the 1st district over-riding legal precedent:

 

[drgrant]

Yup, this one is one of those “money grubbing” cases Sig mentioned. But it isn’t evidence of the P320 being mechanically sound.

I think people miss this part of the equation all too much. Even for those of us who are skeptical of the P320s design, we're also willing to admit that a large % of suits involving this
firearm are 110% fraudulent, much like the same vs Glock and others. Problem is theres still a signifnicant number of incidents that look kinda "f***y" at the outset. Namely those ones where the guns are going off in holsters, etc. If it was the holster's fault, one would think that Sig would be quick to loudly announce this "fact" but they're seemingly not. (or even issue a service bulletin about it)

 

[SpeedwayMike]

I do not carry mine anymore. Just not worth putting a hole through my 3 year olds head as they prattle at my knee.. Or into my thigh. My trust in the gun has been tarnished to an irreparable degree. The rant struck me as “famous last words” style speech someone makes before they are found guilty. I understand they have to balk.. if it turns out they put out a product that can kill uncommanded the company will go under, especially having to reneg on the US military contract.

 

[drgrant]

I do not carry mine anymore. Just not worth putting a hole through my 3 year olds head as they prattle at my knee.. Or into my thigh. My trust in the gun has been tarnished to an irreparable degree. The rant struck me as “famous last words” style speech someone makes before they are found guilty. I understand they have to balk.. if it turns out they put out a product that can kill uncommanded the company will go under, especially having to reneg on the US military contract.

Regardless of the reality of the situation there's no point in carrying a gun you don't trust, so you're better off trading it in/dumping it off and getting something you are confident in. There's nothing worse than carrying something you dont trust, then you are more apt to do stupid things like not carry at all or carry it unloaded, both of which can be pretty dumb.

 

[rogersmithiii]

They should market these to progressives. Make them in pastel colors, put BLM insignia on them, and donate part of the proceeds from the sale to planned parenthood!

 

[SpeedwayMike]

Regardless of the reality of the situation there's no point in carrying a gun you don't trust, so you're better off trading it in/dumping it off and getting something you are confident in. There's nothing worse than carrying something you dont trust, then you are more apt to do stupid things like not carry at all or carry it unloaded, both of which can be pretty dumb.

I am carrying something else. Though, I don’t know if I could ever part with it.. kind of feels like owning a Ford Pinto. It’s a piece of history.

 

[Bud R]

It's a freaking joke. But something even more serious are the friends that I have that refuse to carry anything else.
One friend, US Army SOCOM , has had at last count 2 of these given to him by previous commands, (a good old boy award)
plus owns another set, and yet another friend who bought one because of our DoD discount. I get way nervous at the range
when these 2 folks are running the damn things. WTF is it gonna take for Sig to own up to this shite?

 

[drgrant]

I am carrying something else. Though, I don’t know if I could ever part with it.. kind of feels like owning a Ford Pinto. It’s a piece of history.

No, it's not. It's a pedestrian gun at best, better off left to the winds of time with the money in your pocket to buy something you'll actually shoot. That's what I did with both of mine, turned them into a CZ 1012 that I used to shoot many thousands of shells with on weekends.

 

[Tartakovsky]

The crazy thing is that the plaintiff agrees that something caused the trigger to be pulled.

They are arguing against the absence of a manual safety.

This isn't like other 320 suits that allege that the gun went off without any motion of the trigger. This essentially acknowledges that this was a negligent discharge. But says it shouldn't have happened because the gun should have had a manual safety.

That's absurd.
The gun functioned exactly as designed., With a round in the chamber and the trigger depressed it discharged a shot. It's also exactly how hundreds of other firearms work.

In that case, should be an easy win on appeal then