Have one I bought new, and never got around to shooting. Have to take it to the range one ove these days.I'll admit that i skinflinted into a couple vz2008s back when they were $350 each. My buddy got a vz58 from Czechpoint for 1000 about the same time. When compared side by side, there were very little differences that mattered. He immediately grabbed 5 more vz2008s. Those are going for over a grand these days too.