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JDL said:
Not a mill, a lathe. The barrel would need to be removed and the end turned down and then threaded. This all gets done on a lathe. I also know that in most casses these S&W AR's are a real bear to remove the barrel nut on. Past experience. Are you skilled enough to do this yourself do you know how to use a lathe if you can find someone that has one for you to use? I have done this and it is not a job for a beginner turning the barrel down may be the easiest part, setting up to cut the threads takes a little skill and knowledge. This is not a $50.00 job for a machinist to do even if you remove and replace the barrel yourself.
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I can't work a lathe to save my ass. Even a wood-workers lathe. Just made shavings. a CNC Mill, that I can work with. Was going to use thread milling. I don't know now though. Everyone is taking the wind out of my sails.
 
drgrant said:
"Said nobody, ever" it's literally not for that. It's a plinker to have fun with. I wouldn’t get too concerned about over or under modifying it.
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At the very least, I wanted to see how quiet a Wittman Linear Comp would make it. Thus the threaded barrel. If its quiet enough, a Rattler is going on, because I followed NES suggestions and made sure to spend at least as much on the optic as the rifle.
 
Honestly I'm going to like draft a memo and send it to my friends that say that if I start talking about modifying a 15-22 beyond like unpinning the stock and the magazines that they should try to push to get me committed to the bin. Or maybe come to my house with a bunch of socks and cue balls and just beat my legs mercillessly until I give up the idea. Like when they were grinding Rick James legs for grinding the dirt into Eddie Murphy's couch. 🤣

(Nsfw)

View: https://youtu.be/GxdZHXS8DN4?si=TUroPLbfIPMiMeaB
 
drgrant said:
Honestly I'm going to like draft a memo and send it to my friends that say that if I start talking about modifying a 15-22 beyond like unpinning the stock and the magazines that they should try to push to get me committed to the bin. Or maybe come to my house with a bunch of socks and cue balls and just beat my legs mercillessly until I give up the idea. Like when they were grinding Rick James legs for grinding the dirt into Eddie Murphy's couch. 🤣

(Nsfw)

View: https://youtu.be/GxdZHXS8DN4?si=TUroPLbfIPMiMeaB
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I had $200 in amazon gift cards, I had a massive 3 month long ordeal with a chinese seller that involved a replacement radiator for my buddy's CAT 440D that ended with amazon giving me a $200 credit and addition to the seller refunding $200 to my friend - my buddy told me to keep the credit. And I got myself an amazon charge card. End result, AGM Rattler for under $500 with tax.
 
Marty McFly said:
I'm just starting to understand that there was no real ar15 at all. Only a 15-22
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....? My original post was speculation, and I gave a specific example of a roll pin hole that would be left behind in my 15-22. I didn't buy my AR (which does have a pinned and welded comp) or the 15-22 (no barrel threads, but a pinned stock) with any care for resale value. Seeing that, and being reminded of a recent thread about someone's Franken AR, made me wonder. Thus the thread, followed by an avalanche of derails.

Is, for example, a Daniel Defense unpinned stock / unwelded barrel worth more than the MA compliant build Daniel Defense, exact same to exact same, in anyone's minds? Less so or the same in a mid-tier build? In my shitter-tier rifle? Who cares? That was it.

Now you goofy judgmental f***s have me questioning why I even bothered to buy the 15-22 in the first place. Not you JDL. You're cool forever in my book.
 
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Agnotology said:
I can't work a lathe to save my ass. Even a wood-workers lathe. Just made shavings. a CNC Mill, that I can work with. Was going to use thread milling. I don't know now though. Everyone is taking the wind out of my sails.
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You have a cnc mill with 20+ inches of Z?
And no lathe?

Doesn't sound right.
Setup skill to thread mill a barrel is much greater than that to single point a thread in a lathe
 
pastera said:
You have a cnc mill with 20+ inches of Z?
And no lathe?

Doesn't sound right.
Setup skill to thread mill a barrel is much greater than that to single point a thread in a lathe
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f*** no. I used 4 different funding sources to order a thermal. Do you have any idea how long it would take me to put a DEPOSIT down on one? But I know people with one. Including an old-timer in my hometown who spent 30+ years doing machining work and is always telling me he wants to teach me how to run one. This is the same guy who wanted to get me into Smith and Wesson, if I ever mentioned that story on here.

As far as the 20+inches of Z (I assume that's the axis) he has made his own custom bases (I think that's the right word). If none of that works, I know he has a lathe.

Or, worst case scenario, I just keep it as it is.
 
Agnotology said:
f*** no. I used 4 different funding sources to order a thermal. Do you have any idea how long it would take me to put a DEPOSIT down on one? But I know people with one. Including an old-timer in my hometown who spent 30+ years doing machining work and is always telling me he wants to teach me how to run one. This is the same guy who wanted to get me into Smith and Wesson, if I ever mentioned that story on here.

As far as the 20+inches of Z (I assume that's the axis) he has made his own custom bases (I think that's the right word). If none of that works, I know he has a lathe.

Or, worst case scenario, I just keep it as it is.
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I think cheap 7x lathe has a large enough bore to pass the pencil barrel of a 15-22 - supporting the back of the barrel sticking out of the headstock would take a little setup but the actual turning of the 1/2-28 might take 15 minutes to get centered up, cut the thread then chased with a good die.
But as was already stated - not likely worth it for a 15-22.
 
Hold it on a vblock and hang it off the side of the bed. Not the easiest method, but it can be done. Since your not throwing on a supressor, indicating it in to under .005 , which shouldnt be hard, should be adequate for a brake or diffuser.

This is assuming the barrel isnt tapered.
 
50wt said:
Hold it on a vblock and hang it off the side of the bed. Not the easiest method, but it can be done. Since your not throwing on a supressor, indicating it in to under .005 , which shouldnt be hard, should be adequate for a brake or diffuser.

This is assuming the barrel isnt tapered.
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Didn't think about swinging the head on a bridgeport - really going to suck setting things back up after but if that's what you've got then get'r done
 
Come On What GIF by MOODMAN
 
Agnotology said:
So, I hate to make a Reptile-esque thread, but I am just curious on opinions regarding two particular point on a pre 8-1 rifle

Do you think a pinned muzzle device removes value? Or a rifle that was pinned is worth less than an identical rifle that never was?

Same thing with pinned shoulder stocks. I now have to remove my 15-22's roll pin holding the adjust stock in place, which will leave a hole. Value decreased or no?
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Most people have cheap, junk $30 stocks pinned. If you are worried about leaving a hole, I recommend buying a new POS $30 stock.

If you think not having a pin will add value, the $30 is a good investment.
 
Agnotology said:
Would you pay the same $50 for the CTR with a 1/8" hole? Probably not, no? I, personally, will just be annoyed thinking about it being there. I am going to use this chance to see how good I can be at filing the hole with plastic and finishing it in such a way it is imperceptible. But I'll still replace it, because I will know it is there.
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Way too much work. Spend $49 and call it a day. Some fill job is worse than leaving the hole.

Or sell it and tell the buyer you are discounting it $49 so he can skinflint on a new stock (I bet 99% of buyers won't care).

I really think you are overthinking something that doesn't require more than 10 seconds of thought.
 
Agnotology said:
So, I hate to make a Reptile-esque thread, but I am just curious on opinions regarding two particular point on a pre 8-1 rifle

Do you think a pinned muzzle device removes value? Or a rifle that was pinned is worth less than an identical rifle that never was?

Same thing with pinned shoulder stocks. I now have to remove my 15-22's roll pin holding the adjust stock in place, which will leave a hole. Value decreased or no?
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Does a pinned muzzle decrease value? On a collectors item? Yes.
On a standard firearm, remotely.

How much would it decrease value? By a percentage of the cost of the barrel, block, and nut at most, at least I'd say by the price of the irritation of not being able to put something on it- $20 if it has a decent device anyway.

Pinned stocks? Same rough idea.
 
who gives a damn if your muzzle device is pinned & welded, and/or the condition of your stock?

is someone doing inspections at your range?

if someone is coming to your house and looking in your safe to ensure your gun is compliant, it's because you broke about ten, more important laws, and they're just looking to pile on.
 
StevieP said:
who gives a damn if your muzzle device is pinned & welded, and/or the condition of your stock?

is someone doing inspections at your range?

if someone is coming to your house and looking in your safe to ensure your gun is compliant, it's because you broke about ten, more important laws, and they're just looking to pile on.
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Wooosh!
 
Did something change where the 15-22 does not need a fixed stock now? I kind of assumed that everyone in Mass just unpinned them immediately anyway.
 

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