AR trigger

OP wants a single stage and it’s hard to beat a Rise Armament on bang for buck. I have Timney, Geissle, and many RA’s. All are good, the RA’s are basically just as good, with anti walk pins, for about half the price.
This is akin to a pistol caliber debate; ask 10 people and get 11 opinions. You can’t really go wrong, and if you do, just sell it for $20 less (for opening and trying it) and try again.
 
Had a Geissele SD-3G go 2 round burst on me after a few hundred rounds… if that’s your idea of fun.
Not sure keeping it would have been good for my dog at the time.
 
Tartakovsky said:
Hella yeah, brother
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so there is a reason to use 2 stage triggers and not to use any ultra-light break ones. simpler cheaper g2s or its copy - larue are fine, others that are similar should be ok designs as well.

some other gizmoids aimed for 'fun' and 'sport' - well, with some wear they may go full auto on you, potentially. triggertech was holding pretty well for a long time enough for me, then it failed too, i guess as its internals aged out.
 
peterk123 said:
I found a timney single stage drop in for 97 bucks. Supposed to have a 3 to 4 pound pull. That seemed like short money to try something different.

My wife's Christensen had a single stage that breaks at around 3 pounds, might be less. I love that thing.
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Probably best to stay single stage if that's in your comfort zone. Match rifles and the more accurate milsurps got me into 2-stage triggers.

You can't go wrong with a Timney. Also drop in is nice if you don't have a lot of AR trigger experience. Drop in might be a little harder to clean.

Keep that original trigger for a back up. Also you can do the 25 cent trigger job or whatever they call it with a little metal polish. Try a JP reduced power spring set on the original trigger.
 
Mountain said:
Probably best to stay single stage if that's in your comfort zone. Match rifles and the more accurate milsurps got me into 2-stage triggers.

You can't go wrong with a Timney. Also drop in is nice if you don't have a lot of AR trigger experience. Drop in might be a little harder to clean.

Keep that original trigger for a back up. Also you can do the 25 cent trigger job or whatever they call it with a little metal polish. Try a JP reduced power spring set on the original trigger.
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Only thing to keep in mind with the JP springs is you'll probably want to cut the hammer down (the hook off of it) in order to not have light primer strikes on 5.56 (military primers) ammo. It's a known item with using those spring sets. I've done it before, and needed to cut the hammer back.

Also, the 50 cent trigger job can be tricky. It's a fine line between having a short break and things not working correctly. Plus, you'll probably need to run a 1/4-28 tap through the grip screw hole in the lower. Get a bottoming tap, since a regular plug just won't reach. Again, been there, done that, not doing it anymore.

IMO/IME, drop in trigger packs are just easier to install and you don't need to dick around with different springs and other crap.
 
DarkJoker33 said:
I run triggertech duty drop ins on 90% of my rifles
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the one that went ra-ta-ta-ta on me was the american flag colored 'special' non-adjustable they used to sell on the 4th of july. dunno how old it was, pre-covid for sure.
#3.5 lb pull, i think. they sent a replacement with no fuss, but, well.
 
paul73 said:
the one that went ra-ta-ta-ta on me was the american flag colored 'special' non-adjustable they used to sell on the 4th of july. dunno how old it was, pre-covid for sure.
#3.5 lb pull, i think. they sent a replacement with no fuss, but, well.
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Every product has "defects" .
You may just not hear about it unless they are massively reported. I.e. Sig striker fired pistols.

I haven't seen any mass reports of defective triggertech items
 
GlockBy said:
How many triggers is that and what is the average round count? What is the highest?
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4 duties
2 competition not adjustable
Lower round counts because I don't get out to shoot much in the past few months
200-300 on the duties
Probably in the 400-600 for the competitions one because I had those first
 
peterk123 said:
I've been trying to like the trigger on my S&W Volunteer but I just can't seem to get there. I like that is flat, but that's about it. Not to fond of the take up. It's kind of gritty to boot. And it's not exactly a light pull.

Don't know much about AR triggers. I guess there are two choices, drop in and standard. Which type do you lean toward and what are some nice options? Thx Pete
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I still like my Rock River Arms National Match 2 stage , maybe Im just use to it.
I do have a single stage flat trigger I picked up years ago . Breaks at 1lb crisp and clean but find it only good for bench shooting.
 
Golddiggie said:
I have Rise Armament trigger packs in a few of my lowers. Got Velocity packs in a couple more (part of a sweet deal years back).

IMO, it all comes down to how much money you're willing to spend on the trigger pack. I've been very happy with the ~$100 Rise packs as well as the Velocity packs. The Rise are easier to install though. Also comes with the anti-walk pins, so less long term concerns there.
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I use a few of the Rise RA-140’s and I’ll tell ya they are excellent and always work. When we had the group buy for the velocity triggers, I actually had to send it back as they had to machine some of the safety bar off and sent it back.
Also use CMC triggers. All are great
 

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I use a few of the Rise RA-140’s and I’ll tell ya they are excellent and always work. When we had the group by for the velocity triggers, I actually had to send it back as they had to machine some of the safety bar off and sent it back.
Also use CMC triggers. All are great
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I've not had any issues with the Velocity triggers I picked up in that group buy. My number of needing lowers increased since then, so I had to get others. Since I had heard/read good things about Rise, and the price is hard to beat, I went with those. IMO/IME drop in trigger packs make things a LOT easier when putting things together. I also don't have to worry about having a brain fart and putting one of the trigger/hammer springs on incorrectly.

IIRC, I tested one of the Velocity triggers with a pull meter. Broke at no more than 3#. Haven't tested any of the Rise to date, since they're clean and break nicely. Better than even using the JP springs on a lapped milspec trigger group. I've done that too, when I was short on $$ early in my AR building days. It can give you good results, but it's a LOT more effort than just dropping in the pack. ;)
 
Tartakovsky said:
Geissele SSAs on sale for $150 at Brownells

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i could not resist a $99 one from ar15discounts. totally don`t need it, but, it is fine.
i am not sophisticated enough to get much erection of diffs between g2s and ssa anyway... g2s will do.
 
PappyM3 said:
For free state folks, this seems pretty intriguing. Pricey, but intriguing for either fun range sessions… or an IAR-style contingency rifle.

3 position forced reset trigger


View: https://youtube.com/watch?v=2CL_ckgTOlo


www.deltateamtactical.com

FRT-15L3 AR-15 Forced Reset Trigger, 3 Position, Drop-In Compatible - Includes 3 Position Ambidextrous Safety Selector and Anti-Walk Pins

www.deltateamtactical.com
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Those aren't banned in MA AFAIK.

If ammo was cheaper I would have at least one FRT.

My SP5 would like once, but ammo is just too expensive nowadays.
 
FalArAk said:
Those aren't banned in MA AFAIK.

If ammo was cheaper I would have at least one FRT.

My SP5 would like once, but ammo is just too expensive nowadays.
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Before the summer they were legal, because they weren’t bump stocks or trigger cranks.

Illegal now in MA under the new Ch135, even if you have a green machine gun license.

They replaced trigger crank with trigger modifier. They also created a definition for a rapid fire trigger activator. They are banned in the same section as automatic firearms. Automatic firearms are made legal if a licensing authority grants you a license (bona fide collector etc), but that exception shall not apply to “automatic devices” or “automatic parts”. And FRTs fall into that category.
 
PappyM3 said:
Before the summer they were legal, because they weren’t bump stocks or trigger cranks.

Illegal now in MA under the new Ch135, even if you have a green machine gun license.

They replaced trigger crank with trigger modifier. They also created a definition for a rapid fire trigger activator. They are banned in the same section as automatic firearms. Automatic firearms are made legal if a licensing authority grants you a license (bona fide collector etc), but that exception shall not apply to “automatic devices” or “automatic parts”. And FRTs fall into that category.
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Great.

Consider me educated :)

Thanks.
 
PappyM3 said:
Before the summer they were legal, because they weren’t bump stocks or trigger cranks.

Illegal now in MA under the new Ch135, even if you have a green machine gun license.

They replaced trigger crank with trigger modifier. They also created a definition for a rapid fire trigger activator. They are banned in the same section as automatic firearms. Automatic firearms are made legal if a licensing authority grants you a license (bona fide collector etc), but that exception shall not apply to “automatic devices” or “automatic parts”. And FRTs fall into that category.
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I've always wondered if you could get your finger to move at 300 rounds per minute with electric muscle stimulation [devil]
 

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