Colorado Gov. Jared Polis Signs Insanely Unconstitutional Gun Control Law With Huge National Implications: Now Fixed Mags

[Dennis in MA]

<crosses Colorado off retirement destination list>

Actually it's been off the list for years, starting when John Denver and all the hippies and tree-huggers started moving in. Observation shows that such folks talk all about freedom and sticking-it-to-the-man until they become "the man" at which time they become some of the most oppressive politicians and government leaders.

This law needs to be stayed, then overturned, pronto, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

TBH, that's not a liberal-hippy trait, it's a human trait. So if it was filled with right wing nut job. Or wing-nut right-jobs, there would be equally oppressive laws (I'm looking at you TX and your dildo-bans) just with different semantics.

 

[Sparky123]

That’s not entirely accurate. He signed a bill requiring anyone who wants to purchase semi-automatic firearms (including ARs) to obtain a permit, which involves completing training. Honestly, I don’t have an issue with the training requirement

The training isn't the problem, I have no problem with that. Learning to use any weapon is important. The problem is that in order to exercise your 2A rights, you MUST complete the training. For years, the democrats have been making us jump through hoops. What's even worse, they have gotten some gun owners to go along with them. Gun laws are about control, not safety.

 

[kevin9]

TBH, that's not a liberal-hippy trait, it's a human trait. So if it was filled with right wing nut job. Or wing-nut right-jobs, there would be equally oppressive laws (I'm looking at you TX and your dildo-bans) just with different semantics.

True, it is a human trait, but IMNSHO the leftists/hippie types tend to be more hypocritical about it. They preach peace, love and freedom but do the opposite once they're in power. So called "right wing nut jobs" pretty much implement what they said they would implement (ex. homosexuality is wrong -> homosexuality is illegal). Neither extreme is a good thing.

 

[alan226]

I’m 100% with you and totally agree. But what Reptile posted was definitely an exaggerated headline meant to grab attention. I’m from Colorado, and even after that bill was signed, you can still walk into any gun store and buy revolvers, shotguns, and centerfire rifles without a permit
I think requiring training to use a semi-auto isn’t a bad idea—especially for Gen Z

Until the person doing the training arbitrarily decides that you don't shoot well enough so no permit for you....

 

[thesyguy]

I’m 100% with you and totally agree. But what Reptile posted was definitely an exaggerated headline meant to grab attention. I’m from Colorado, and even after that bill was signed, you can still walk into any gun store and buy revolvers, shotguns, and centerfire rifles without a permit
I think requiring training to use a semi-auto isn’t a bad idea—especially for Gen Z

Yeah, no. When I went for my "mandatory safety training" there was a young Asian girl in the class. During the live fire session she shot the ceiling while improperly handling the firearm. They still passed her.

 

[Drill Baby Drill]

Yeah, no. When I went for my "mandatory safety training" there was a young Asian girl in the class. During the live fire session she shot the ceiling while improperly handling the firearm. They still passed her.

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And then you are going to eat that. And what have you done Mr patriot? Let me guess, when they passed a law in ma you just jump up and down.

 

[granitestater]

Until the person doing the training arbitrarily decides that you don't shoot well enough so no permit for you....

or prices the training so high that poor people lose their second amendment rights. .Gov mandated training is a recipe for disaster when it comes to exercising 2A rights without infringement!

 

[mcb]

I’m 100% with you and totally agree. But what Reptile posted was definitely an exaggerated headline meant to grab attention. I’m from Colorado, and even after that bill was signed, you can still walk into any gun store and buy revolvers, shotguns, and centerfire rifles without a permit
I think requiring training to use a semi-auto isn’t a bad idea—especially for Gen Z

Ok Jared.

 

[drgrant]

This is why people who say they left Massachusetts to "escape the tyranny" and "you're on your own bro" will get f***ed anyways if other states are permitted to make these guns illegal,

Except that CO was always kinda sneakily communist going back like 20+ years (plus its just f***ing weird there) and nobody with a brain ever thought it was a place to "escape from tyranny".

Yes, the shit needs to be fought but living and swimming in a broth of steaming moonbat turd soup isn't a requirement to do so. There's a whole bunch of people here who don't live in MA anymore thant support orgs like comm2a, SAF, and many others.

 

[HorizontalHunter]

My Constitutional rights are not subjected to other peoples opinion. It's as clear as that.

Do you have a permit?? Then the answer is yes it is.

 

[dwarven1]

I’m 100% with you and totally agree. But what Reptile posted was definitely an exaggerated headline meant to grab attention. I’m from Colorado, and even after that bill was signed, you can still walk into any gun store and buy revolvers, shotguns, and centerfire rifles without a permit
I think requiring training to use a semi-auto isn’t a bad idea—especially for Gen Z

Yeah, THAT attitude of yours will last until the first time you have to actually go APPLY for a purchase permit and your local licensing officer gives you some shit comment like "Oh, going to go knock off a drugstore?".

And that is a DIRECT f***ING QUOTE from the cop who I saw when I was begging permission to buy my second handgun - a RUGER MARK 1. But to HIM, I was an uppity peasant wanting to be armed.

Speaking as a refugee from the Sheeple's Republik of Nazi Jersey, you're f***ed, dude. Jersey has had purchase permits forever, and it SUCKS. By default, it's a waiting period.

So... now you've applied. NOW you get to hope you get your permission slip BEFORE the gun you want is sold. If it IS sold, can you find another one in stock? Or did you just miss out on getting that sweet Savage 1907 in .380ACP? Or that Singer 1911? Too bad. Gee.... Now you have a permit but nothing you WANT to buy. What do you do with it before it expires? I'll tell you what you do with it - you go buy SOMETHING that you may or may not want, because you don't want to be the schmuck that just wasted the time and MONEY to get a permit for NOTHING. What do you buy? If you're lucky, you find something good... if not... you buy a f***ing AMT Hardballer or a beat-up 50 year old Llama Large Frame Auto... just to have SOMETHING to show for your permit. That's why Jersey gun owners have so much shit they don't necessarily want.

You're an ass. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countryman.

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[Drill Baby Drill]

Yeah, THAT attitude of yours will last until the first time you have to actually go APPLY for a purchase permit and your local licensing officer gives you some shit comment like "Oh, going to go knock off a drugstore?".

And that is a DIRECT f***ING QUOTE from the cop who I saw when I was begging permission to buy my second handgun - a RUGER MARK 1. But to HIM, I was an uppity peasant wanting to be armed.

Speaking as a refugee from the Sheeple's Republik of Nazi Jersey, you're f***ed, dude. Jersey has had purchase permits forever, and it SUCKS. By default, it's a waiting period.

So... now you've applied. NOW you get to hope you get your permission slip BEFORE the gun you want is sold. If it IS sold, can you find another one in stock? Or did you just miss out on getting that sweet Savage 1907 in .380ACP? Or that Singer 1911? Too bad. Gee.... Now you have a permit but nothing you WANT to buy. What do you do with it before it expires? I'll tell you what you do with it - you go buy SOMETHING that you may or may not want, because you don't want to be the schmuck that just wasted the time and MONEY to get a permit for NOTHING. What do you buy? If you're lucky, you find something good... if not... you buy a f***ing AMT Hardballer or a beat-up 50 year old Llama Large Frame Auto... just to have SOMETHING to show for your permit. That's why Jersey gun owners have so much shit they don't necessarily want.

You're an ass. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countryman.

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Relax! I feel you. Just relax.

 

[Mark from ?]

And then you are going to eat that. And what have you done Mr patriot? Let me guess, when they passed a law in ma you just jump up and down.

MA has a democrat controlled house, senate and governor.......people fight...but in the end....its all a big loss. Outvoted in EVERY possible way.
Red parts of the state which are rural cannot outvote the moonbat cities....and the whole state stays D controlled...one party system.

Keep the permission slip for your 2A rights attitude and you will find out one day how this stuff works.

 

[Drill Baby Drill]

MA has a democrat controlled house, senate and governor.......people fight...but in the end....its all a big loss. Outvoted in EVERY possible way.
Red parts of the state which are rural cannot outvote the moonbat cities....and the whole state stays D controlled...one party system.

Keep the permission slip for your 2A rights attitude and you will find out one day how this stuff works.

I said some people don’t know how to handle firearms and not a bad idea to get proper training.

 

[MAJoe]

I said some people don’t know how to handle firearms and not a bad idea to get proper training.

“Not a bad idea” is very different than “required”.

You need to pass a written and practical test to drive a car, so everyone is a safe driver right?

 

[dwarven1]

I said some people don’t know how to handle firearms and not a bad idea to get proper training.

Which has NOTHING to do with state-mandated permission slips. If it's such a good idea, then why don't you get your state legistraitors to put a line in their budget for no-cost firearms gun safety classes? Perhaps even no-cost shooting classes? Let me know how that works out for ya.

 

[drgrant]

Relax! I feel you. Just relax.

Nobody around here's going to relax, we've been pissed on for so long by MA and other commie states that accepting shit like mandatory training is a bridge WAY too far.

This might have been a different conversation if gun owners hadnt been routinely f***ED UP THE ASS by the gov with garbage like this for the past century.

But its too late for playing nice now.

"no"

The data available doesnt even validate the idea anyways. It's throwaway feel good bullshit.

 

[drgrant]

"How many children must die before you give up your guns? (Or agree to restrictions or mandatory training? )

Me: "All of them".

 

[Drill Baby Drill]

Which has NOTHING to do with state-mandated permission slips. If it's such a good idea, then why don't you get your state legistraitors to put a line in their budget for no-cost firearms gun safety classes? Perhaps even no-cost shooting classes? Let me know how that works out for ya.

You are right. I agree with you.

 

[Mark from ?]

I said some people don’t know how to handle firearms and not a bad idea to get proper training.

Should get training voluntarily and "mandated by permit from the government" are two very different things........

All we are telling you..... is mandated permits, safety testing, etc lead us to our current system and the communist states of MA, NY, NJ etc are where they are today as far as anti 2A.

Our present myriad of unconstitutional laws is your future if you embrace the permits/training in the name of safety schemes the libs throw out there. Its their foothold into full gun control. Especially if you get enough Cali libs out there to out vote the normal thinkers, which it seems is already happening.

 

[Drill Baby Drill]

Should get training voluntarily and "mandated by permit from the government" are two very different things........

All we are telling you..... is mandated permits, testing, etc lead us to our current system and the communist states of MA, NY, NJ etc are where they are today as far as anti 2A.

Our present myriad of unconstitutional laws is your future if you embrace the permits/training in the name of safety schemes the libs throw out there. Its their foothold into full gun control. Especially if you get enough Cali libs out there to out vote the normal thinkers, which it seems is already happening.

100% with you.

 

[G4Y4HK]

Does Colorado track your gun and ammo purchases with credit cards like NY state does? Hochul said making credit card companies track your ammo purchases discourages 'stockpiling'.

 

[Drill Baby Drill]

Does Colorado track your gun and ammo purchases with credit cards like NY state does? Hochul said making credit card companies track your ammo purchases discourages 'stockpiling'.

Yes, they passed that. Here is the law summary: "Colorado has a new law, SB24-066, requiring payment card networks to provide a specific merchant code for businesses selling firearms and ammunition. This allows banks and credit card companies to track such transactions and potentially alert law enforcement if they detect suspicious patterns"

 

[Dadstoys]

ANY authority given to the government WILL be abused.
Full stop, period.
The same people who claim it's being done for "Public safety" are the same a-holes who unleashed 100's of thousands of rapists , killers and child molesters on the public from every dump around the world.

 

[T-Unit]

But can you buy a semi auto pistol or AR-15? No? That’s an infringement K?

"The Second Amendment means that the government has the right to tell you what your rights are and that shall not be infringed."

- probably John Roberts in the upcoming Snope v Brown decision

 

[CMEBoston]

"The Second Amendment means that the government has the right to tell you what your rights are and that shall not be infringed."

- probably John Roberts in the upcoming Snope v Brown decision

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Sorry I don’t obey pubic servants

 

[ThePreBanMan]

The second amendment does not require training. But Let’s see what the training has to include. It could have very strict rules which can be abused to shut down gun sales.

You're technically wrong...


"A well regulated militia"..... at the time, "well regulated" meant well trained and well practiced.... In fact, this is the very position our side has staked out when the left says "well regulated" means Government regulation...

I have not read the bill. But if it's a training requirement and not an outright ban, and the training isn't overly egregious, I bet with withstands court challenge... I believe it was Thurgood Marshall who said, "There is no surplus of words in the Constitution."...

Considering the above, I think one could successfully argue in court that the 2nd Amendment does have room for training and proficiency requirements.

 

[MickeyD’s]

You're technically wrong...


"A well regulated militia"..... at the time, "well regulated" meant well trained and well practiced.... In fact, this is the very position our side has staked out when the left says "well regulated" means Government regulation...

I have not read the bill. But if it's a training requirement and not an outright ban, and the training isn't overly egregious, I bet with withstands court challenge... I believe it was Thurgood Marshall who said, "There are no surplus of words in the Constitution."...

Never cared for the argument people make around “well regulated” It’s a statement really , yes Militas are needed for security of free state.

It’s the second part that names who the right is for and what the right / what the gov cannot do

The right belongs to the people and that right is to keep and bear arms , gov cannot not infringe.

 

[ThePreBanMan]

Never cared for the argument people make around “well regulated” It’s a statement really , yes Militas are needed for security of free state.

It’s the second part that names who the right is for and what the right / what the gov cannot do

The right belongs to the people and that right is to keep and bear arms , gov cannot not infringe.

To repeat Thurgood Marshall:

"There are no surplus of words in the Constitution."...

The words are there, and they have meaning and purpose... You can't ignore the first half of the amendment and only pay mind to the second....

 

[MickeyD’s]

To repeat Thurgood Marshall:

"There are no surplus of words in the Constitution."...

The words are there, and they have meaning and purpose... You can't ignore the first half of the amendment and only pay mind to the second....

Not ignoring anything

Reading it as it is written, I pay mind to the part that clearly calls out what and who the right is for.