Do I want a Glock?

[xcom]

I really, really do not recommend this.

First, the purpose of the half-cock notch is so that if the nose of the hammer breaks or if it jumps the sear, the sear will intercept the half-cock notch and prevent the hammer from hitting the firing pin. If, on the other hand, the hammer is at half-cock and the half-cock notch jumps the sear, then there is nothing to intercept the hammer - it will hit the firing pin -- hope you have hard primers!

Second, this now requires manually cocking and decocking the 1911, which is a lot more likely to result in an ND then just leaving the damn thing alone. What do you think is safer:

1) Take the cocked-and-locked gun out of your holster, put it in the safe, or
2) Take the cocked-and-locked gun out of your holster, lower the safety, grab the hammer, pull the trigger, start to lower the hammer, release the trigger, slowly release the hammer, put it in the safe.

And when doing the reverse:

1) Take the cocked-and-locked gun out of the safe, put it in your holster, or
2) Take the half-cocked gun out of the safe, grab the hammer, cock the hammer carefully, apply the safety, put it in your holster.

Which of those two is more error prone? Remember the KISS principle?

Third, this complicates the manual of arms. If you normally carry a 1911 cocked-and-locked, and you normally practice that way, then you expect to be able to lower the safety and pull the trigger. If someone breaks in at 0-dark-30 and you grab your 1911 which is at half-cock, chances are you will try to lower the safety and pull the trigger. By the time you figure out why it didn't go off, it may well be too late. If your gun is sometimes condition one and sometimes at half-cock, chances are it will be in one condition when you expect it to be in the other, and that is just really bad juju.

If you like 1911s but are worried about it not being drop safe, then for goodness sake just get a Series 80-style gun with a firing pin safety. Carry it condition 1 and if you want to store it in a ready condition, store it condition 1.

This. But what would I expect from a guy with the handle "1911." When I first started carrying my 1911 in '98 I carried in Position 3 (empty chamber, hammer down and mag loaded) for a year until I realized that it was "dangerous" from a protection standpoint. I carry Position 1 and have been for years.

 

[kalash]

To each his own. I love mine. It's a bitch to ccw though since it's about the size of a school bus

I'm sorry, did you say something? I couldn't look away from your avatar...

 

[mke0039]

Just got a G21 cheap, now it shares the night stand with my P345 Ruger.

 

[thormx538]

everyone should have at least one Glock. they're plastic and can get through metal detectors at airports.

GHOST GUN!?

 

[In God We Trust]

Without reading the OP or a single post in the thread, YES you want a Glock!

 

[ntomsw]

No. Not at all actually.

 

[7.62x39]

DO I really want a Glock?

Does a fat kid want cake?

 

[ntomsw]

Does a fat kid want cake?

Only if the fat kid likes it beaned off of his fore head.

 

[Canndo]

Not a slam to the OP or anything, but does everything need a thread? There's enough info and Glock threads on NES to answer every question you have. Just buy the ****ing thing, if you don't like it sell it. All you are going to get is mostly biased opinions and retarded comments. Fwiw.

 

[oldguy47]

Glocks are rugged, durable, and I love my 26! You can't go wrong with a clunky, boxy, reliable Glock. You will grow to love it. (And sleep well at night)!

 

[jasons]

I like the idea of a DA first pull so I don't set it off while half asleep and fumbling for it, yet SA follow-up shots (man do I love my 1911's trigger).

Then you don't want a Glock.

 

[Wicked1911]

I also like that, unlike with a revolver, I can mount a light on the Glock.

Says who?

I would take a look at the M&P R8 I just got one and it's awesome. It's an 8 shot and has a rail for a light or laser. Comes with the hardware to mount a red dot or scope as we'll, also two moon clips that you can use if you want.

Mine:

Not mine but shows light and optic:

 

[bill o]

If you don't like cocked and locked, you could always keep it on half cock. It's just as easy to cock it the rest of the way when needed as it is to thumb the safety off and half cock is one of the safety features on a 1911 .

Do not do this. It is nonsensical, irresponsible advice.

 

[xring]

I didn't even bother reading any of the posts other than the OP. Get a Glock 19 and ignore everyone who says not too.

 

[snowballs]

get a 30 fill it up and keep it under your pillow.

 

[beaker]

None. And a G19 is an excellent choice, haters gonna hate.

That's... actually a good question. I store my wheel guns loaded so I don't know why I wouldn't do the same for a semi. Any need to worry about wearing anything out?



Don't want to worry about a safety if aroused at night. If safety is kept off, then I don't want to worry about the light trigger when picking it up at night. Like I said, maybe that's just crazy talk.

 

[92G]

with regards to the TRR8...it's an awesome revolver but it's the cost of 2 glocks and it requires moon clips to use appropriately.

i don't dislike the Glock 19, but i also don't quite get the appeal. there are more .40S&W glocks available in MA so they are cheaper....and pretty much any .40 glock can be swapped over to 9mm with a cheap $100 barrel.....so IMO get a .40 and then have multiple calibers to shoot.

i mentioned this earlier with my G23 that can chamber 3 calibers.....i got the idea from others and man it's some clever $hit.

 

[Wicked1911]

with regards to the TRR8...it's an awesome revolver but it's the cost of 2 glocks and it requires moon clips to use appropriately.

No, you don't have to use the moon clips, they are totally optional more for speed loading, but the gun works just fine without them

 

[92G]

No, you don't have to use the moon clips, they are totally optional more for speed loading, but the gun works just fine without them

Of course the gun works without them.
but reloading 8 rounds manually is a joke....forget about it.
and speed loaders for 8 rds gets crazy.
To use the TRR8 for anything othe than leisurely range shooting, then moon clips are a must. I got nothing against moon clips....just another thing to factor in.

 

[Wicked1911]

Of course the gun works without them.
but reloading 8 rounds manually is a joke....forget about it.
and speed loaders for 8 rds gets crazy.
To use the TRR8 for anything othe than leisurely range shooting, then moon clips are a must. I got nothing against moon clips....just another thing to factor in.

Gotcha

 

[spt_1955]

I own a Glock 17 and a Sig p226 and like them both. All the conversation about Glock "grp angles" doesn't seem to bother me. I shoot both equally well and have no problem with target acquisition with either. It does take some concentration to switch between the "combat sight" picture used by the Sig and the Glock "bullseye" sight picture but they are both very accurate.

If I was choosing a gun to keep loaded in my nightstand I'd choose the Sig over the Glock. If you run out of bullets the Sig is a much better choice for pistol whipping somebody. Steel beats out polymer when smashing teeth with it.

 

[Chevy 2 65]

Buy a Glock

 

[kalash]

So I shot a Glock 19 and was very pleasantly surprised. It points completely different from a 1911 but it's certainly something that most people could get used to. Way lighter than the steel .45 and, of course, 9mm is easier to shoot. Trigger was a bit long, especially compared to the 1911, but certainly not bad. Definitely a much different feel from my 1911.

As an aside, I also shot a Tavor and loved it! Way better (and way more expensive) than an AR. Tavor felt very natural to point and with a red dot sight I hit 5/5 at 100 yards. Not bad for my first time ever shooting it, never mind the fact that I rarely shoot rifles out to 100.

 

[BattleSnail]

So I shot a Glock 19 and was very pleasantly surprised. It points completely different from a 1911 but it's certainly something that most people could get used to. Way lighter than the steel .45 and, of course, 9mm is easier to shoot. Trigger was a bit long, especially compared to the 1911, but certainly not bad. Definitely a much different feel from my 1911.

As an aside, I also shot a Tavor and loved it! Way better (and way more expensive) than an AR. Tavor felt very natural to point and with a red dot sight I hit 5/5 at 100 yards. Not bad for my first time ever shooting it, never mind the fact that I rarely shoot rifles out to 100.

I was sold on my G30 when I pulled it up and the sights just perfectly aligned naturally for me. It's the quickest, most naturally pointing gun I have. I was surprised because I really wanted to hate Glocks for a long time. Now I'm sold on them.

 

[M1911]

So I shot a Glock 19 and was very pleasantly surprised. It points completely different from a 1911 but it's certainly something that most people could get used to. Way lighter than the steel .45 and, of course, 9mm is easier to shoot. Trigger was a bit long, especially compared to the 1911, but certainly not bad. Definitely a much different feel from my 1911.

Yes, Glocks point higher, but that's a training issue. The stock Glock sights suck. I replaced all of mine with 10-8 Performance sights (Heinie also makes good sights). The Glock trigger can be improved somewhat, but it certainly won't ever be a 1911 trigger.

 

[92G]

So I shot a Glock 19 and was very pleasantly surprised. It points completely different from a 1911 but it's certainly something that most people could get used to. Way lighter than the steel .45 and, of course, 9mm is easier to shoot. Trigger was a bit long, especially compared to the 1911, but certainly not bad. Definitely a much different feel from my 1911.

As an aside, I also shot a Tavor and loved it! Way better (and way more expensive) than an AR. Tavor felt very natural to point and with a red dot sight I hit 5/5 at 100 yards. Not bad for my first time ever shooting it, never mind the fact that I rarely shoot rifles out to 100.

compared to a quality piston-AR, the tavor isn't that much more expensive. get yourself one before the moonbats and tyrants devise a strategy to shutdown IWI-US.

 

[bfm]

Don't want to worry about a safety if aroused at night.

None of us do, but it is still best to use a condom.

 

[Kisspik002]

Def get a glock

 

[mark056]

Ain't this thread dead yet? Seems simple to me ;

1. Buy a Glock
2. Shoot the Glock, I mean really shoot the durn thang
3. Like the Glock, keep the Glock, don't like the Glock, sell the Glock...That's what adults do rather than go on NES and get the highly opinionated positions on the subject by a bunch of NES yayhoos (including myself ) in the end you are going to do what you want anyway.

Lotta Glockophiles here love 'em cuz the're hard to get in Mass, makes the owners feel kinda proud and elite and special kinda sorta a millineal thing I think. Others really do like 'em. Handguns are really very individualistic. My two favorites are still the Browning Hi Power and the S &W 39 both old designs and one virtually obsolete, but we like what we like. Right?

 

[gforce202]

I was always hesitant to buy a Glock, because let's face it, it's not the best looking gun,BUT very reliable. I ended up getting a G27, installed a better trigger and got it cerakoted. Now I'm addicted and want to buy a new one.

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