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Tough call. It seems that he has no guns that the police know about and no license to buy any.
That doesn't mean he doesn't own any.
As Abraham Lincoln said "Tis better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."If so, he's just done something very stupid. Loose lips, and all that.
Not a tough call. He remarked about bringing a rifle to school. It’s hyperbole until it isn’t. At the least, a moron like this with zero common sense or situational awareness shouldn’t be an “educator”.Tough call. It seems that he has no guns that the police know about and no license to buy any. That doesn't mean he doesn't own any.
Not a tough call. He remarked about bringing a rifle to school. It’s hyperbole until it isn’t. At the least, a moron like this with zero common sense or situational awareness shouldn’t be an “educator”.
Jail time? No. Termination? Absolutely.In a private conversation that somebody overheard he made an offhanded, not serious comment. I don't think there's really a crime to charge him with here. The terrorist threat thing won't hold water.
Jail time? No. Termination? Absolutely.
The person he made the comment to confirmed that he made the comment.In a private conversation that somebody overheard he made an offhanded, not serious comment. I don't think there's really a crime to charge him with here. The terrorist threat thing won't hold water.
The person he made the comment to confirmed that he made the comment.
“Makes me want to bring my rifle into school” is pretty damning. I fail to see how context can save him. He said it in the “teachers’ pod” at school. If I said “makes me want to bring my rifle to the office” to one of my peers while in the office, and HR overheard, regardless of context, you can bet I’d likely be terminated.I know, but it's not a question of whether he said it, it's the context that he said it in + the actual words he used that are relevant.
“Makes me want to bring my rifle into school” is pretty damning. I fail to see how context can save him. He said it in the “teachers’ pod” at school. If I said “makes me want to bring my rifle to the office” to one of my peers while in the office, and HR overheard, regardless of context, you can bet I’d likely be terminated.
The person he was having the conversation with said that the guy was speaking metaphorically and did not use the best choice of words. The person having the conversation with him seemed to think that his words were not meant to be taken literally, so that should count towards something. I’ll assume the principal who made the call knows the guy’s personality, his temperament, his history, and interviewed him and knew whether or not his words are to be taken literally.The person he made the comment to confirmed that he made the comment.
Teacher at Mass. high school accused of threatening to bring gun to school
A 54-year-old Hanover High School English teacher has been on administrative leave since the incident.www.masslive.com
The principal knew what he had to do to protect his pension.I’ll assume the principal who made the call knows the guy’s personality, his temperament, his history, and interviewed him and knew whether or not his words are to be taken literally.
Wondering what the rest of the comment was.Taken literally and not metaphorically, it is not a threat but a statement of desire. It states the utterer "Wants" to do something, not that he has decided to violate the law and do it. If I say "I want to drive at 90" on a nearly vacant highway, that does not mean I have decided to violate the law and plan on driving at that speed.
The fact that they searched his house and did not find a rifle (or any gun) give credibility to the claim it was hyperbole.
His risk of conviction is high based on the "cuz guns" doctrine. Chances are he will end up with a CWOF and possible unemployment. There could even be a condition of the CWOF that he agree not to attempt to get his job back.
But, in today's world, anyone hearing mention of "gun" who does not report it, whatever the context, is betting their career on nothing happening that could be considered related to the comment.
I wonder if a search warrant was issued, or if it was a coerced consent search ("Nice walls you have in your house, it would be a real shame if we got a warrant and ripped them all open").
The principal knew what he had to do to protect his pension.
“Makes me want to bring my rifle into school” is pretty damning. I fail to see how context can save him. He said it in the “teachers’ pod” at school. If I said “makes me want to bring my rifle to the office” to one of my peers while in the office, and HR overheard, regardless of context, you can bet I’d likely be terminated.
I’ll assume the principal who made the call knows the guy’s personality, his temperament, his history...
I say shit like that in school all the time. I have yet to get fired. It is likely that this guy is being punished not for what he said this time, but for the fact that he doesn't work and play well with others. As might, perhaps, be evidenced by the fact he was already awaiting a disciplinary writeup.
But, in today's world, anyone hearing mention of "gun" who does not report it, whatever the context, is betting their career on nothing happening that could be considered related to the comment.
“Makes me want to bring my rifle into school” is pretty damning. I fail to see how context can save him. He said it in the “teachers’ pod” at school. If I said “makes me want to bring my rifle to the office” to one of my peers while in the office, and HR overheard, regardless of context, you can bet I’d likely be terminated.
but he didn't say that.
According to the article, he said "when something like that happens it makes me want to go home and get my rifle", which agreeably isn't the smartest comment to make in public, in a school environment.
Like I say, I often say stuff like that.
It's possible I should stop doing that.
I always wondered if that was an anecdote for catching some vd qnd making a ship unsailableIf so, he's just done something very stupid. Loose lips, and all that.
In today's environment, why would you say anything like that at a school?
Sometimes, it's simply the right thing to say. I'm not going to miss an excellent metaphor just because it includes the word "rifle." I spew out tens of thousands of words each day; I'm not able to parse every one of them.
More than likely then, it will catch up to you someday.