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No military, to my knowledge, ever equipped their troops with AR15s. Mercs used them on an individual basis during the Rhodesian bush war, but they were not members of the Rhodesian military. Most of these mercs were contracted to provide ranch security. The standard Rhodesian military rifle was the 7.62 NATO FN/FAL. The AR15 was designed for, and marketed to, civilians.I've literally had this discussion:
"If AR15's are weapons of war, how come no militaries use them?"
"They do! They use the M16"
"Different gun. Fully automatic."
"It's exactly the same gun."
"If it's exactly the same, why don't they use the semi-version?"
"They're exactly the same gun. They're equally deadly."
"OK, if they're exactly the same gun, and equally deadly...can I convert my AR15 to fully auto? Would that be OK? You said they're exactly the same."
"NO! Machine guns are WAY MORE DEADLY."
"Uh...but you said..."
I know. That's why my first question is always "If AR15's are weapons of war, how come no militaries use them?"No military, to my knowledge, ever equipped their troops with AR15s. Mercs used them on an individual basis during the Rhodesian bush war, but they were not members of the Rhodesian military. Most of these mercs were contracted to provide ranch security. The standard Rhodesian military rifle was the 7.62 NATO FN/FAL. The AR15 was designed for, and marketed to, civilians.
No military forces ever used the American 180 SMG and the Armalite AR18 either. They were used by the Irish Republican Army and other terrorist groups.I know. That's why my first question is always "If AR15's are weapons of war, how come no militaries use them?"
Police departments don't issue them. They issue "patrol rifles". Friendly and safe, don't hurt nobody. That is exactly what the news report"They are designed to inflict as much harm and death as humanly possible"
"They're designed to kill as many people as quickly possible."
I hear this all the time. My question is always "Why do police departments issue them? Do they want to kill as many people as quickly as possible?"
I tried having this discussion with a friend who asked why anyone needs an "assault rifle".I've literally had this discussion:
"If AR15's are weapons of war, how come no militaries use them?"
"They do! They use the M16"
"Different gun. Fully automatic."
"It's exactly the same gun."
"If it's exactly the same, why don't they use the semi-version?"
"They're exactly the same gun. They're equally deadly."
"OK, if they're exactly the same gun, and equally deadly...can I convert my AR15 to fully auto? Would that be OK? You said they're exactly the same."
"NO! Machine guns are WAY MORE DEADLY."
"Uh...but you said..."
Exact same thing with my SIL. I basically wrote an essay in reply to her, rebutting every point the media makes. Didn't hear anything back from her. Surprise, surprise.I tried having this discussion with a friend who asked why anyone needs an "assault rifle".
I asked her what an assault rifle is.
You know how it went from there.
LOL. The Winchester, Black Talon ammo of yesterday, was basically, the Winchester, Ranger ammunition, of today, with a black finnish. Winchester eliminated the black finnish and dems were very happy, DAH!I remember I was in collitch when they "banned" African American Talons. Watching Dateline NBC or something talk about it. Some doctor talking about how it bounces around inside of you slicing you to ribbons. A bad graphic of an expanded hollow point bouncing around inside an illustrated torso.
I was deeply concerned about them back then. I WAS the ignert-voter-guy. I can totally see how this sucks people in. Most people don't have the bandwidth to track anything beyond the drive home from work and trying to put food on the table.
I just watched a video about one of our engagements. The bad guy was hit with 3 3-5 shot strings before a final headshot took the guy down for good. So up to 15 hits and it still took a headshot to finally take the guy down. I didn't get an actual hit count, but it was a pretty open engagement with no cover. It was a close engagement during an interdiction. From what I could gather, it was maybe 30-40 yards, that's just my interpretation based on my experience. Bad guy being able to see the agent at night without NVG's and starting the engagement. Normally, things get pretty personal at night before people realize I'm there.OMG, you need to hold back the puke and try to make it further into the vid.
The ar-15 takes heads and arms completely off.
Holy crap!
Some were, some weren't. Massachusetts police departments, including some campus police, received M14 and M16A1 rifles from the Army as part of a give-away program. Police in other states also received them. These are real machine guns, since they are capable of full-auto fire. Since they were Army property and never NFA registered, big no-no for civilian possession. Only LE and military can possess them.Isnt the chief of Police of Boston on record (when asked about whether or not the police should give up their "weapons of war") stating that the police dont have weapons of war because the rifles his cops carry were designed for civilians?
Cant say it any better than this.The firearms of the day were muskets. Therefore the 2A protects muskets. The military used muskets, therefore the 2A protects military weapons
Glad u saw the light!Hey a lot of us were stupid ignorant voters once upon a time. I was a college kid and didn't think much about anything because I was too busy working on getting through 4 years of school. I would have gleefully signed up to any gun ban *because* I was stupid and ignorant at the time. I honestly never heard of the Hughes amendment for example until I became a gun owner.
Through my 25 years on the military I've unfortunately met tons of service members that believe that their military training was necessary to "handle" an m16 or m4 and that only the military and police should be able to own them. Your last statement is dead on......none of these people had owned fire arms prior to joining the military......and the vast majority of them......were not even in combat arms.......the ones with this bullshit opinion were generally support MOS holders. Which I suspect the knucklehead on this video was also.First you have a mouth piece from the Communist Media and then a Congressman who is a member of the Communist Party stroking himself as having been in the military, There is where I will say with out a doubt was his first and only indoctrination to firearms.
Steaming pile of MSNBC garbage but we need to be aware of the shit they spread
View: https://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-ari/watch/here-s-proof-that-ar-15s-are-weapons-of-war-108989509942
Sounds racist to me.LOL. The Winchester, Black Talon ammo of yesterday, was basically, the Winchester, Ranger ammunition, of today, with a black finnish. Winchester eliminated the black finnish and dems were very happy, DAH!