Not sure what this means, but i smell anti doo doo. None of it has shit to do with preventing suicides.You can be pro-gun, yet not in favor of the rule of the gun. Things aren't always black and white, at least not to me.
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Not sure what this means, but i smell anti doo doo. None of it has shit to do with preventing suicides.You can be pro-gun, yet not in favor of the rule of the gun. Things aren't always black and white, at least not to me.
Where did you get your degree in psychology? Curious. I especially appreciate your use of the scientific method in your rigorous, fact-based analysis.More women are emo attention whores/suicude chumps. Males don't attention whore to suicide because they rarely get validation/feedback for it. Men are also far less likely to seek or obtain help because society has told them that "feelings are illegal" etc, regardless of any clown world woke bullshit (which is a lie anyways) men are typically socially conditioned to believe that showing weakness at any time under any circumstance is bad.
None of this of course has much to do with guns though. The notion of guns really influencing suicide is garbage. Plus it's just anti claptrap anyways, it's a distraction from trying to get people to stop killing themselves, if that's the intent.
I don't have one, however i had a suicide chump in my life for the better part of a decade, so i know a little. Regardless anti gun faggotry about guns causing suicide isn't useful to anyone but antis. It's not going to help suffering people not kill themselves. The antis pushing that narrative could give a shit less, they just like attracting more useful idiots and memes beyond "save the chillllllldren" etc.Where did you get your degree in psychology? Curious. I especially appreciate your use of the scientific method in your rigorous, fact-based analysis.
How the hell does that example prove anything about suicide being impulsive? All it proves is that people have survival instincts.Suicide is typically impulsive. For example, people who jump off of bridges, heights, etc., and survive, usually relate that the second after they jumped, they realized they'd made a horrible mistake and wished they could undo their decision. (For a fictional example that's been praised for its verisimilitude, see "The View From Halfway Down" from Bojack Horseman.)
You can be pro-gun, yet not in favor of the rule of the gun. Things aren't always black and white, at least not to me.
Women are crazier than men and apparently more incompetentWomen are far more likely than men to attempt suicide, by a factor of three or four to one. Yet almost twice as many men die by suicide. What is your explanation for that? You seem to be an expert.
unless you have been "inside the thoughts" of a mentally ill person, I doubt you have any idea how long she considered it or how many times before she finally did it.One of my cousins killed herself this past winter. I believe it was more impulsive than not.
You can be pro-gun, yet not in favor of the rule of the gun. Things aren't always black and white, at least not to me.
Thank you! At least someone else on this forum passed reading comprehension.Suicide by gun is not an easy question to answer.
When England swapped from town gas to natural gas for cooking, suicides dropped. Some of that was from an overall drop in suicides. But some from the lack of ovens to stick your head into. (Town gas was very impu and had a lot of CO. That whole head in the oven thing makes no sense to us because we aren’t of that generation.)
But the question is foolish. Should we get rid of bridges, ravines, tall buildings, bathtubs?
The answer is suicide would drop if all guns were gone. Just like no more traffic accidents if we got rid of all of the cars.
Even that's debatable. Canada implemented a handgun registry and saw a drop in handgun suicide. They also saw suicide by hanging rise at parity. Like 1:1 replacementSuicide by gun is not an easy question to answer.
When England swapped from town gas to natural gas for cooking, suicides dropped. Some of that was from an overall drop in suicides. But some from the lack of ovens to stick your head into. (Town gas was very impu and had a lot of CO. That whole head in the oven thing makes no sense to us because we aren’t of that generation.)
But the question is foolish. Should we get rid of bridges, ravines, tall buildings, bathtubs?
The answer is suicide would drop if all guns were gone. Just like no more traffic accidents if we got rid of all of the cars.
Sounds a lot like waaaaaaaaaaI just want to say that anyone on this thread that believes firearms do not contribute one surplus suicide death annually in the U.S. should probably refrain from joining the debate club.
I'm not clear if you understand what debate is nor how it works.I just want to say that anyone on this thread that believes firearms do not contribute one surplus suicide death annually in the U.S. should probably refrain from joining the debate club.
Ooohhh! Burnt! You got me.I'm not clear if you understand what debate is nor how it works.
Thank you for making my point.Sounds a lot like waaaaaaaaaa
No one can debate you on facts when only those points you respect are counted. I can tell you my experiences with therapists, suicide, and attempts thereof, but you've made it clear that yours are the only ones valid.Ooohhh! Burnt! You got me.
I posted that (which supports your point) because no one was debating me on the facts. They just put in their tinfoil hats and said 'Merica, more or less.
I just want to say that anyone on this thread that believes firearms do not contribute one surplus suicide death annually in the U.S. should probably refrain from joining the debate club.
My only point is that guns do contribute surplus suicide deaths in some unquantifiable amount.No one can debate you on facts when only those points you respect are counted. I can tell you my experiences with therapists, suicide, and attempts thereof, but you've made it clear that yours are the only ones valid.
Congrats on Bogarting a conversation that wasn't even a debate in the direction you're trying to make it..."just one life" isn't a useful metric, so it's not worthy of discussion.
One death? You’re arguing semantics then?
It's not one death, but there are those on here (the majority) who refuse to concede that point. So I tried to dumb it down for them (and you).One death? You’re arguing semantics then? If it’s statistically meaningless why bother arguing the point?
If you want this place to be an echo chamber, fine. But there is an amendment before the 2nd.No one can debate you on facts when only those points you respect are counted. I can tell you my experiences with therapists, suicide, and attempts thereof, but you've made it clear that yours are the only ones valid.
Congrats on Bogarting a conversation that wasn't even a debate in the direction you're trying to make it..."just one life" isn't a useful metric, so it's not worthy of discussion.
If you want this place to be an echo chamber, fine. But there is an amendment before the 2nd.
By throwing jabs at people every other reply, coool. No one asked to see your degree. This is a thread for discussion not who has what after their name.Thank you. I didn't say it did. I'm just rationally discussing guns and suicide.
My only point is that guns do contribute surplus suicide deaths in some unquantifiable amount.
LMAO.See what I mean Jack. You are truly a piece of work. Stick around my friend. You're a lot of fun.And knowing you, Gerry, you probably went thru their pockets for loose change and ammo. Jack.