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Yeah, they hang out with all the Rangers and SF guys I meet!i find that everyone i meet since i have been out of the Marines that are Marines as well were all either Recon or Sniper. Hmmmmmmmmm! The majority is all sniper. Odd one of the smallest MOS and they all happen to be from MA.
+1I just don't think people really understand unless they've been there themselves.
So when ever I hear someone telling stories about this and that to someone who isn't prior service - that's a big red flag for me.
The closest I got to Recon was driving them to the Central training area (cta) in a deuce 1/2 .Nice guys but not right in the head.Would I want them around when shtf ? Absolutely. Would I want them living next door to my house ? Hell no !
Getting to drive a real HMMWV, not the civilian Hummer version
I dunno, my grand pa wouldn't talk about his service at all. Found out he was a tail gunner on a B-17 during WW2. Shot down 3 times. The quiet cool. He was my hero.
And none of the new members will have any idea what DevGru is.Well, with recent events the SEAL Team 6 alumni association has no doubt swelled by thousands.....
Well, with recent events the SEAL Team 6 alumni association has no doubt swelled by thousands.....
Rather have a jeep thanks. Had the HMMWV in the ROK, sucked.FIFY
For what it's worth, I'd take a Hummer over a HMMWV any day! Try driving a HMMWV at 65 MPH. You can do it for about 15 minutes before the gear box starts smoking. Plus, those 2" thick canvas seats do a number on your ass after awhile.
Lost mine in 84, they don't make them like that anymore.This was my Great-Uncle Dick:
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He was a real quiet dude and usually wouldn't say shit if he had a mouthful. Very friendly, just quiet.
Anyway, he and I were chatting at a family wedding about ten years ago and I asked what he did during the war.
Turned out he was an engineer/gunner on B17. Since he was a smaller sized guy they stuck him in a turret.
I asked him if he was on many bombing runs over Germany and he said "Oh yeah, more than I care to think about."
One baddass dude.
He passed away a few years ago.
RIP.
Back in 1997 when I was stationed at Ft Gordon, GA I saw a scraggly looking chap collecting funds for a Viet Nam Veterans' of America fundraiser. He was in front of the PX and permission to be there. I was in BDUs, and I think I slipped a dollar in his can. I asked him when he was in, he replied "1968" I said that I was in back in '68 but that I didn't go to Viet Nam that they sent me to Alaska instead. He glared back with "you're a REMF then"...somewhat taken aback by his hostile attitude I asked "what did you do?"...He replied "I was in the Air Force and I worked in the motor pool at Ton Son Nut (not sure of spelling now) Air Base"....yeah, he was a real front line soldier. Him calling me a REMF was like the pot calling the kettle black. (yeah I know they took some mortar and rocket attacks on the Air Bases...but still). A legend in this own mind, I suppose.
Since I spent most of my career in MI and still do some work related to intelligence, I can fairly quickly tell who the phonies are.Mark L.
Why is it that whenever someone says "I can't talk about that" they always turn out to be a pogue? If something classified is going down there is always a cover story and the cover story is always true.
Met a guy who weighed about 300 lbs and had told co-workers he did a lot of "Sneak and peak" operations that "he couldn't talk about" in the Air Force. Looked the guy up on military.com and he was a E3 aircraft refueling technician!
All service is honorable and lord knows you do what you are told. My last job in the Army was a non-TO&E "Assistant S4" and my primary accomplishment was the acquisition of a bunch of used cargo trucks. Not exactly heroic, but necessary to keep the Big Green Machine on track.
Why do these guys pick something so obviously untrue? Fewer than 1% of Army veterans are Ranger qualified but it seems like every 10th vet I meet was a Ranger. Every 3rd Marine was Recon. And the number of SEAL "veterans" is extraordinary given the size of that group.
My Grandfather and one uncle were in the Navy. Grandpa is a Korean war vet. He never talked about it till i was in my 20's. My uncle in the Navy never talks about anything related to it. Another Uncle was drafted during Vietnam ( i never knew till i was in my mid 20's and only found out cuz my dad told me) and my little cousin also served. Both were in the Army. As far as i know i have one other cousin who was in the Navy. He's MSP now. Hadn't seen him in 25 years till he pulled me over one night!
My cousin in the Army talked a little about his service..... mostly about his rifle training because of my interest in guns.
My Grandpa told a few wild stories about the Korean war....talked about the men he served with..and that was about it. Scary as hell.
No one really talks about their service too much. At least the people i've known. The few that do really have to be in the mood.
Thank you all.
If he was a BSer or pogue, he would have spent lots of time talking about his service, just to set up the situation where he could say "I can't talke about that."Had one friend who never talked openly about his service, but whenever someone asked what he did he would just say "I can't talk about it." So hard to say if the guy is BSing or not. He NEVER said he was Spec Ops or such, never inferred, just tried to be normal, but when he shot, you could tell he spent a lot of time practicing like his life depended on it. *shrugs*.
Ed proudly served his country as a member of the 101st Airborne, serving two tours in Vietnam as a UDT specialist with SEAL Team 2.
I hate to speak ill of the dead, but I worked for this jerk. He was outed by CyberSeal.com years ago. This is a direct quote from his obituary:
I hate losers like this with a passion!
My father in law was 101st airborne,but in Nam he was attached to the 199th light infantry brigade. I could be wrong but I think it was because there was minimal airborne activity then.