I may have to breakdown and buy an M&Pc....

[BigMike]

I am issued a 40 FS and a 40c at work. Mine have the standdard 6.5lb triggers. The standard triggers are ok at best, much better then the 10lb crap that comes on the guns being sold in the retail market (In Mass). The guns are reliable and feel great in hand. I think they are great carry,duty or fun gun. Personally I would never carry a gun for self defense that has had a trigger job that involves altering of a factory part. My opinion is this gives a lawyer a window to character assasinate you-make you look like a Rambo. Mr so and so felt he knew more then the factory that built the gun so he modified the gun bla bla bla . I have no issue with the replacement of factory parts for Factory Parts, provided the factory parts are specific to a carry/self defense gun and not a competition gun. You can bet your backside if you shoot in self defense there will be a civil law suit. In the civil forum all you have to show is that the other party was at least 51% negligent.In this state with the sheeple you get on juries the odds are not in your favor. I know that the last shootings at my agency the guns were subjected to a full inspection by the Da and in the subsequent civil trial the descedants lawyer also had the weapons inspected to ensure they were within factory spec and contained factory parts. As soon as a factory part is changed its up to you to defend this modification. Granted you could argue your modification made the gun easier to shoot acurately and thus more safe to bystanders as well as yourself but it would be your nickle funding this argument. Using stock factory parts you at least would have the manufacturer that would have to back why they manufacture a gun with 6.5lb trigger etc. YMMV

I appreciate your opinion on the matter, but I am still gonna have the trigger job done by a competent and respected gunsmith, Greg Derr. I am plannning on having him lose the "grittiness" and make it break crisply anywhere in the 5lb range. You know....how it's supposed to be.

 

[Len-2A Training]

I appreciate your opinion on the matter, but I am still gonna have the trigger job done by a competent and respected gunsmith, Greg Derr. I am plannning on having him lose the "grittiness" and make it break crisply anywhere in the 5lb range. You know....how it's supposed to be.

You won't regret it and it will be like night and day.

 

[XTAV750]

I've got a M&P9c and I like it. Its comfortable in my hand, conceals well, and I'm reasonable accurate with it. After more than 1000 rounds through the barrel Ive never had a malfunction. The only advice I would give is this:

If you get one, for the love of God, get the trigger done.

 

[Sprocket]

M&P + Apex sear = Happiness

Just the sear - can you change batteries in a TV remote? You can do it in 30 minutes, includes coffee and cleaning of the pistol. YMMV

 

[stinx]

Its a sad commentary that law abiding gun owners have to pay aditional money out of pocket just to get a gun to have decent trigger. The M&P's are great guns im sure it will treat you well.

 

[BigMike]

M&P + Apex sear = Happiness

Just the sear - can you change batteries in a TV remote? You can do it in 30 minutes, includes coffee and cleaning of the pistol. YMMV

I ABSOLUTELY would love to do this myself. Can anybody attest to shooting a "jobbed" gun, and a drop-in APEX sear?

 

[Sprocket]

The difference between OEM MA compliant and Apex sear only is about 5lbs of pull, reset is smoother overall, pull is cleaner and break is crisp - this is only changing out the sear, no other parts were changed or altered.

I have not shot a gun with a trigger job done by a smith so I can't speak about that aspect.

I will say for $45 shipped and a DIY install, it was well worth it. I'm not gonna win target competitions for accuracy but it gains me what I need for steel, IDPA, etc.

You buy the ammo, I'll let you shoot mine - 40c or 9mm - PM for details.

 

[DavidC77]

I ABSOLUTELY would love to do this myself. Can anybody attest to shooting a "jobbed" gun, and a drop-in APEX sear?

I've got kind of the same thing going on in this thread Gunsmith-or-Apex and kdrew answers that in post #4 .

I just picked up a 40c on Tax Free Saturday and as I said I have the 40 FS. My FS trigger is breaking around 9 Lb's and my new compact is breaking at around 13 Lb's (right now). I want to get them to the "free state's" 6.5 Lb trigger. I think that will be a perfect trigger weight for what I'm looking for with a nice crisp gunsmith's break.

I have pretty much decided to get two S&W sear housing assemblys and have Mike LaRocca tune them up for me with a nice trigger job. I have to call him 1st though before I order them as I'm not sure if I need them (as he my have them or may not want to use them).

My thinking is I would rather get two new non MA sear assembly's (at around $27 each from Midway or Brownell's, S&W's part # 277640000) and have him do his work to the guns and then if for any reason I need to go back to stock I will have the original parts to do so.

As kdrew said in the other thread (post # 4) the Apex has a longer take up and I do not like that so that is why I'm going with Mike LaRocca's Gunsmith's trigger job.

Hope this help's. Good Luck.

 

[vellnueve]

I've got kind of the same thing going on in this thread Gunsmith-or-Apex and kdrew answers that in post #4 .

I just picked up a 40c on Tax Free Saturday and as I said I have the 40 FS. My FS trigger is breaking around 9 Lb's and my new compact is breaking at around 13 Lb's (right now). I want to get them to the "free state's" 6.5 Lb trigger. I think that will be a perfect trigger weight for what I'm looking for with a nice crisp gunsmith's break.

I have pretty much decided to get two S&W sear housing assemblys and have Mike LaRocca tune them up for me with a nice trigger job. I have to call him 1st though before I order them as I'm not sure if I need them (as he my have them or may not want to use them).

My thinking is I would rather get two new non MA sear assembly's (at around $27 each from Midway or Brownell's, S&W's part # 277640000) and have him do his work to the guns and then if for any reason I need to go back to stock I will have the original parts to do so.

As kdrew said in the other thread (post # 4) the Apex has a longer take up and I do not like that so that is why I'm going with Mike LaRocca's Gunsmith's trigger job.

Hope this help's. Good Luck.

If you're getting both done... sending two guns out to Burwell at the same time may be more cost-effective. His work is awesome.

 

[DavidC77]

If you're getting both done... sending two guns out to Burwell at the same time may be more cost-effective. His work is awesome.

Thanks, ya I'm going to do the same thing by dropping off both guns to Mike LaRocca. I think if he has the both guns at the same time he can tune them as close to each other as possible.

 

[Skald]

I attempted to do the Apex stuff, but I got huge meat claws for hands, and as such, didn't posses the necessary dexterity to do it. Had a smith do the install for $60 and my M&P became very happy.

 

[vellnueve]

Thanks, ya I'm going to do the same thing by dropping off both guns to Mike LaRocca. I think if he has the both guns at the same time he can tune them as close to each other as possible.

Not really my point... Burwell's trigger jobs are tops, and they're cheaper - the problem is usually shipping is too expensive for most people to stomach - but shipping two guns may reduce the cost/unit. Sending two guns to Burwell for trigger jobs will probably cost a little bit less than having LaRocca do both.

 

[Youradolt]

The m&p compacts are more like compact glocks,

G19 G26 M&PC9

Lenth 6.85inchs 6.29inchs 6.70inchs
Weight 20.99ozs 19.75ozs 21.7ozs
Width 1.18inchs 1.18inches 1.20inchs
Height 5.0inchs 4.1inchs 4.3inchs
Mag cap. 15/17/33 10/15/17/33 10rds/ for mass 12/17 if your a LE

 

[Skald]

Also, if you live in MA you get to pay the MA surcharge.

 

[DavidC77]

. Sending two guns to Burwell .

That's the part I don't like. Call me peroniod but I don't like the idea of mailing my guns somewhere. I like the idea of driving them to a (some-what) local gunsmith and having him do them and I no if there is any problems or if I need something else done he is close by.

 

[vellnueve]

That's the part I don't like. Call me peroniod but I don't like the idea of mailing my guns somewhere. I like the idea of driving them to a (some-what) local gunsmith and having him do them and I no if there is any problems or if I need something else done he is close by.

Well, the majority of privately owned guns have gone through UPS, Fedex, or USPS at some point in their lives.