If there were no gun laws... Would you rather have 10.5 inch AR Pistol (buffer tube only) or 10.5 inch AR SBR (adjustable stock)?

[Reptile]

If there were no gun laws... Would you rather have 10.5 inch AR Pistol (buffer tube only) or 10.5 inch AR SBR (adjustable stock)?

A pistol just has a buffer tube and a SBR has an adjustable stock.

I'd say have an SBR which has a stock so I can shoulder it without a buffer tube poking me.

 

[Golddiggie]

If braces were off the menu, but there was no tax stamp needed for a SBR, I'd go with a stock/SBR.

 

[1sern]

What ammo are you planning to run out of your 10.5"? Think of reliable fragmentation if you're planning on using M193 or M855, range will be limited.
I'd rather have a non buffer tube config for that like an MCX with a folder, so sbr

 

[Lank]

If there were no gun laws, I would be looking at much more fun stuff

 

[gerrycaruso]

I'm mostly a handgun shooter but in this case, I'd pick an SBR.

 

[quinnjalan]

SBR

 

[Tartakovsky]

Seems obvious but I dunno. The SBR would be my clear and obvious choice.

 

[Nightshift]

If there were no gun laws, you could practice your draw from under your trench coat, shoot your "pistol", then slip on an adjustable stock and larp around pretending you're ATF killing kids and dogs. Double the fun!

 

[kalash]

The pistol would have literally zero advantages over the SBR in this scenario.

 

[nstassel]

The only reason anyone has a pistol rather than an SBR is to avoid being sniped by the ATF.

 

[240Geezer]

I've seen a couple of reviews on short barrel AR accuracy and out to 100 yards there is little difference from a 16" barrel.
That said I have 4 10-1/2" ARs in 3 different calibers. They all have braces. I'm not big on permission slips.
I'm also in a free state so not subject to crazy ass laws.

 

[Caveman]

SBR. The way it’s supposed to be.

 

[Nightshift]

This is supposing NO GUN LAWS....... So, what's an SBR?

 

[rcwhat]

I swear you ask the dumbest shit

 

[MAD Geary]

The only reason anyone has a pistol over an sbr is to avoid being sniped by the atf.

Or their dog

 

[T-Unit]

If there were no gun laws I'd rather have a 16 inch bullpup that's the same OAL of a 10" AR and has select fire of single, burst, and FA.

 

[LakeTrout]

How is this even a question? Would you rather have a useless tube hanging off the back of your gun or would you rather have something that is useful for shooting?

I can see if the question is would you rather have a brace or a stock. But if the question is tube only vs. stock, it’s not worth taking the time to type that question up.

 

[Nightshift]

I swear you ask the dumbest shit

 

[knoxy]

Lol, laws

 

[SS1]

No Brainer
No laws
FN Fal

 

[jamison55]

Agreed, the question is flawed. Not one honest person would rather have a naked buffer tube just hanging there in the back looking like an erect black rod thrusting towards their face with each shot….well maybe Reptile would . If we’re being completely honest, that’s why everyone puts braces on their pistols. “It’s a brace, it’s not a stock ”. But you rest it against your shoulder when you shoot it…

IMO, the only reason to have a 10” .556 is to piss people off that are shooting next to you. I’m love freedom and believe you have the right to own whatever makes you happy, but to me they are the loud muffler Harley’s of the gun world. They are flashy…literally…and obnoxious, trading ballistic efficiency for mall ninja tacticool. And I’m all for having guns that are just for fun. I love nothing more than .22 mag out of a handgun. Fireballs for miles, always makes me smile. But I also realize those fireballs are wasted powder that is not propelling the bullet to its potential maximum efficiency. They are range toys. And any time a dude shows up at a bay next to me with an AR “pistol”, I start packing up. I’m looking at you, portly bearded man at Buds indoor range who decided to help my brothers and I celebrate the holidays by mag dumping 500 rounds through your 10” AR, at a target 8 feet away, as fast as your Ghost energy fueled, twitchy little sausage fingers could fap.

If there were no gun laws, I can think of a handful of firearms that I would rather have than an SBR .556. Starting with a full auto MP5. The 9mm becomes MORE lethal through a longer barrel, it’s super controllable in full auto, and also, Now I have a Machine Gun, Ho Ho Ho…

 

[Chevy 2 65]

m249.

 

[Tartakovsky]

Guys, hear me out. If there were no NFA and no such thing as “machine guns” would you rather a firearm limited to semi automatic fire or a firearm that was select fire and could choose semi automatic, three round burst, and full auto?

 

[Parker Schreiber]

A couple of poorly written ATF rulings meant that adding a couple of Velcro straps to a stock would magically turn an SBR into a braced AR pistol. Whether the "short-barrel" provisions of the NFA are constitutional or not is up to the courts, but braces were exploiting a loophole.

IMO, the only reason to have a 10” .556 is to piss people off that are shooting next to you.

.556? Perhaps. However, if Massachusetts's scary looking gun laws are struck down, I'll buy or build a 10" suppressed .300 BLK AR for home defense, even if I have to pay $400 in stamps and beg the feds to take it over state lines.

 

[silversquirrel]

No laws? Apache chopper. Might need flying lessons.
And lots of ammo.

 

[kalash]

No laws? Apache chopper. Might need flying lessons.
And lots of ammo.

You can afford a $50M helicopter???

 

[kalash]

Guys, hear me out. If there were no NFA and no such thing as “machine guns” would you rather a firearm limited to semi automatic fire or a firearm that was select fire and could choose semi automatic, three round burst, and full auto?

Might as well have all the options available, although I'd stick with semi-auto 99% of the time.

 

[G4Y4HK]

Might as well have all the options available, although I'd stick with semi-auto 99% of the time.

Lioness season 2 showed you need a full auto suppressed MCX to take down a company sized unit of messicans

 

[paul73]

Not one honest person would rather have a naked buffer tube

plenty of options out there with no damn tube.
i want to get one more cmmg dissent into my stable, but i despise 10.5" barrel in .223, as i have no good use case for it.
for some reason gunbroker does not list 14.5" uppers at all, but they do exist.
when it pops up, i will get one. it is a neat thing, but to run a 10" non-suppressed AR, meh. i have no use case for such a thing, as i am not a gangbanger.

i got a 10.5" 9mm one, it is very nice and runs great.

 

[jamison55]

A couple of poorly written ATF rulings meant that adding a couple of Velcro straps to a stock would magically turn an SBR into a braced AR pistol. Whether the "short-barrel" provisions of the NFA are constitutional or not is up to the courts, but braces were exploiting a loophole.



.556? Perhaps. However, if Massachusetts's scary looking gun laws are struck down, I'll buy or build a 10" suppressed .300 BLK AR for home defense, even if I have to pay $400 in stamps and beg the feds to take it over state lines.

I get that about the loophole and love sticking it to the ATF, but I stand by my assertion that 10” .556 “pistols” are obnoxious to anyone but the shooter. ESPECIALLY at an indoor range. Also 10” seriously hampers the lethality of a .556 which relies on speed for its devastating wound characteristics.

A suppressed short .300blk, OTOH makes practical sense, and is far less obnoxious! That’s a round that was designed for SBR applications.

Smart tacticians value their night vision and want to make as little noise as possible.