In America, talk turns to something unspoken for 150 years: Civil war

jpk said:
Doesnt everyone have at least one nut in the neighborhood sufffering from an acute case of TDS with the never ending rotation of irrational signs on the front yard?

I noticed the kook that had the "I support planned parenthood" sign pulled it down after Shaheen/Hassan voted against protecting infants born alive in botched late term abortions....
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Can't be that crazy if a line was crossed and the sign came down.
 
What's the red line? Impeachment and removal of Trump? How about the removal of the Electoral College? Maybe it's the .gov forcing you to borrow (or spend your hard-earned) money to renovate your house and make it "Green New Deal Compliant"? Hell, cities and towns already do that with zoning and permitting. Is it Universal Health Care and Universal Public Education through grade 16 all paid for with your (higher) tax dollars. Is it the continual erosion of the 2A? Or the 1st? There are plenty of examples of countries that have gone down the crapper in the last 30 years due to Socialists/Progressives taking power with little balance of power. The latest seems to Venezuela and South Africa. No "revolution" there. History doesn't repeat, but it certainly rhymes... I guess the question is what will US History rhyme with 20 years from now?
 
mav said:
What's the red line? Impeachment and removal of Trump? How about the removal of the Electoral College? Maybe it's the .gov forcing you to borrow (or spend your hard-earned) money to renovate your house and make it "Green New Deal Compliant"? Hell, cities and towns already do that with zoning and permitting. Is it Universal Health Care and Universal Public Education through grade 16 all paid for with your (higher) tax dollars. Is it the continual erosion of the 2A? Or the 1st? There are plenty of examples of countries that have gone down the crapper in the last 30 years due to Socialists/Progressives taking power with little balance of power. The latest seems to Venezuela and South Africa. No "revolution" there. History doesn't repeat, but it certainly rhymes... I guess the question is what will US History rhyme with 20 years from now?
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The first two for sure. As surely as if the Dems stormed Independence Hall and burned the Constitution.
 
I don’t think a civil war will happen again here on US soil. Moreso a soft removal of dissent to consolidate freedom across the Republic. There are many more level headed people in this country who desire freedom than those who pine for a one world system where you need to buy and sell with a chip in your body.

This country will become a haven for believers in God while the rest of the world worships a hero. This hero will demand absolute fealty. We will become more isolated from Europe, Russia, and China. As to Australia and Africa I’m not sure. The former three will increase their power and holdings in their own neighborhood.

As to Canada and South America we may very well unite or not. Remember the “Amero”? That is still a possibility if Europe, Russia, and China are divorced completely from us.

Once the US is isolated let it begin.
 
After the last whatever scare, what was it? the election. I deemed my ammo too much to count.....so......whatever......just bring it already. [rolleyes]
 
So, with an impeachment or the electoral college gone, does it start in sleeper cells? lone wolf attacks? Sounds like a familiar and ineffective strategy if so.
 
jpk said:
That money has been there for decades.....it hasnt changed........


But the real question boils down to a personal one I asked previously.....what are YOU going to do when Ocasio Cotex and her green new deal people come knocking and throw you out of your home and demolish it because its not "Green new deal compliant" and you dont have 600k to rebuild it in a compliant manner?
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The green new deal is nothing more than a pipe dream. Even if 99.999% of the people in this country were behind it and ready to pass constitutional amendments to make it happen it would still take decades if not hundreds of year to implement. New technologies would need to be invented and we don't even know what's possible. Not only that but with the government deciding what to spend money on will slow technological progress to an absolute crawl. My gut would tell me that most people would be signing on for new constitutional amendments to eliminate the green new deal after just a few years of paying high unrealistic taxes and getting being told that the downstream benefits will be in 100+ years. Complete elimination of fossil fuels is a fantasy dream for Luddite hippies.
 
slap shot said:
So, with an impeachment or the electoral college gone, does it start in sleeper cells? lone wolf attacks? Sounds like a familiar and ineffective strategy if so.
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IT starts if the leftists remove Trump from office on bogus charges and then the take power and come after us. Or when Trump is re-elected they start a coup, remember the swamp hates Trump has much as the Leftists because he upset their little world and threatens their power..
 
jpk said:
It may be a pipe dream but that has never stopped progressives from passing stupid shit in past has it?

Of course not.

Look at prohibition as a perfect example of some of the dumbest shit ever done in US history that literally criminalized a huge portion of the population overnight, funded a huge enforcement apparatus that ruined peoples lives and led to the strengthening of organized crime and corruption in gov.......the kennedies are a product of this corruption.

Heck, US code is FULL of dumb shit that is used selectively to punish political enemies and undesirables while ignored/not enforced against friendlies........

Look at the medicare for all bill.....it ELIMINATES all private insurance in 2 years.......

Its only a matter of time before the useful idiots pass some draconian pile.......

The question you need to ask yourself is "what would you do if it comes to your door step" because too many people are unwilling to take the easy steps to move to a state where their vote actually counts
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It's not just the progressives though that dream up corrupt laws, it's all politicians in general. Just look at local politics. There's always plenty of people walking around saying "There ought to be a law against that". If we and I include you in the conversation want to keep the idiots from passing stupid laws then we need to make sure we elect leaders who aren't afraid of fighting the idiots in court. The one thing that the left has learned to do quite well in the last 100 years is taking their case to court and then stacking the courts with like minded idiots. I think the point in time we are at right now is absolutely pivotal in swapping out the idiots from the federal judgeships. Some times I do wonder if as a society we aren't going to mire ourselves into a meaningless society with oppressive taxes. Maybe it's our turn to learn our lesson. I don't know, but what I do know is that our constitutional republic is proving impossible to overthrow.
 
VetteGirlMA said:
It's not just the progressives though that dream up corrupt laws, it's all politicians in general. Just look at local politics. There's always plenty of people walking around saying "There ought to be a law against that". If we and I include you in the conversation want to keep the idiots from passing stupid laws then we need to make sure we elect leaders who aren't afraid of fighting the idiots in court. The one thing that the left has learned to do quite well in the last 100 years is taking their case to court and then stacking the courts with like minded idiots. I think the point in time we are at right now is absolutely pivotal in swapping out the idiots from the federal judgeships. Some times I do wonder if as a society we aren't going to mire ourselves into a meaningless society with oppressive taxes. Maybe it's our turn to learn our lesson. I don't know, but what I do know is that our constitutional republic is proving impossible to overthrow.
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President Trumps greatest accomplishment will be his restructuring of the courts and the leftists know it, which explains their anger and hysteria. Ruthie "Woo Woo" Ginsberg can't survive 6 more years and the Libs know it, which explains their desperation. Ruthie should have stepped down under Obama's reign but she got cocky and decided to eke out a few more years under the first female President. BAAAA! How did that work out?
 
Another example of intolerance on the left and why talk of Civil War is not nonsense. THEY are the ones advocating intolerance and hatred of their enemies. So a God fearing man who's a devout Christian isn't a DECENT human being? Just remember, they think even less of US and all the wannabees are falling in line and reciting the party mantra..

"Warren is in Iowa this weekend campaigning and pandering to the special interest groups she’ll need to win the nomination. She was asked about Joe Biden’s recent description of Vice-President Pence. He made the mistake of calling Pence “a decent guy” and all hell broke loose on the left. Elizabeth Warren responded by also claiming that Pence is not a decent man. Because she’s a lemming."
Instead of following up on Pence, she was asked if anyone in the Trump administration is decent. Anyone? Nope. Nada. Zilch. The senator doesn’t think so. She listed off the Mueller investigation, the guilty pleas, the staff and cabinet resignations, and some imagined scandals just waiting to happen. She calls the Trump administration the most corrupt in her lifetime, which is going some.

Maybe she read some hyperbole put out by the Human Rights Campaign last year. It was quite dramatic. Who knew that mild-mannered Mike Pence was such a threat?

The Human Rights Campaign last year launched a campaign to highlight Pence’s record on issues important to the LGBTQ community, calling him “one of the greatest threats to equality in the history of our movement.”
Elizabeth Warren in Iowa: No, Pence isn't a decent man
 
Well, with any luck we can have our divorce before it happens, else we'll be on the hook for it, a la Puerto Rico's hurricane but 10000x worse.
 
It's not going to be our side that starts it.
The fact that we don't agree with their politics alone is enough to made them want us dead or rotting in a camp even if you did nothing else .
Most conservatives I know spend their lives trying to provide for their families and homes.
They don't get over the top political , they just want to be left alone and live their lives.
That's enough to drive the lefties nuts.
You WILL toe the leftie line and live according to their rules or else.
 

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