Legislative push starts to repeal Massachusetts gun law

[dcmdon]

Article 17:
The people have a right to keep and to bear arms for the common defence. And as, in time of peace, armies are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be maintained without the consent of the legislature; and the military power shall always be held in an exact subordination to the civil authority, and be governed by it.

Thank you. I'll delete my post above

 

[pastera]

Article 17:
The people have a right to keep and to bear arms for the common defence. And as, in time of peace, armies are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be maintained without the consent of the legislature; and the military power shall always be held in an exact subordination to the civil authority, and be governed by it.

Very key clause - no, the Mass constitution does not recognize the individual right to keep and bear arms.

 

[dcmdon]

And at the same time raising taxes

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But it's also far from the worst.

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[Mesatchornug]

Very key clause - no, the Mass constitution does not recognize the individual right to keep and bear arms.

Sure.

That decision predates federal ones that enshrined an individual right...

 

[garandman]

You mean mostly consisting of about a half million f***stick libtards and "80% jingocons" that also happen to own guns? Most of those licenses aren't going to people who think like we do on these issues. Not sure why you consistently fail to understand this concept. You keep forgetting this state is majority moonbat, moonbat adjacent (eg, like people who thought romney and baker were great) etc.

The demographics here are completely untenable for rkba advocates. The only viable relief path is through federal court.

This approach gives gun owners an excuse to do nothing.

“ Not sure why you consistently fail to understand this concept. ”

 

[zork51]

Durant is solid. He's our State Senator and I've met him. He's doing his job for his constituents, not showboating. He's also VERY fiscally conservative- another rarity in this state.

I met him too at the Barre Sportmen's Club last fall. He's got my full support if he runs for Gov. The main thing is who counts the votes. I believe we've been duped for several years on election outcomes in Mass.

 

[zork51]

It's for those reasons that I was opposed to the idea of gathering signatures and putting the repeal on the ballot. We all saw how the alleged majority gave illegal aliens driving licenses. Our civil rights should never be subject to the whims of the vulgate for any reason. I could foresee the majority Moonbats voting away our rights in the name of public safety and sealing the deal by saying it was democracy.

I don't believe giving illegals driver's licenses should have ever been presented for a vote. But it's all part of the replacement citizen package here in the PROM.

 

[Coyote33]

You are correct sir...Massachusetts Rinos tend to do more harm than good according to history. After 25 years of membership at Harvard Sportsman, it still never ceased to amaze how many fudds still didn't mind "assault weapons" bans and justified them as hi-cap guns having no purpose. Supreme court needs to nuke the MA and CO bans.

an oldie but goodie:


View: https://youtu.be/4JGdSqCi7ds?t=72

Is this person you?

MA Supreme Court has ruled the 2A does not apply to MA "residents"
MA has ignored Heller
MA has ignored Bruen
MA has only increased gun control over the last year
MA clearly intends to force FFLs out of business
MA has only been emboldened with the election of an admitted Communist as Mayor of Boston and a Radical Leftist as Governor

All truths (except Bruen did eliminate restrictions).

 

[Coyote33]

Very key clause - no, the Mass constitution does not recognize the individual right to keep and bear arms.

Sure.
That decision predates federal ones that enshrined an individual right...

What path do each of you think would be most successful as a way out of what you have stated?

 

[pastera]

What path do each of you think would be most successful as a way out of what you have stated?

Canjura already shows that the SJC is starting to understand that Heller actually applies to them.
Keep praying that SCOTUS announces cert in Scope tomorrow (and Ocean State Tactical)

 

[dcmdon]

This approach gives gun owners an excuse to do nothing.

“ Not sure why you consistently fail to understand this concept. ”

Nobody is saying we should do nothing.

What we're saying is that the legislature is not where we can win since these anti-gun laws accurately reflect the will of the people of MA.

The courts are where we should focus.

 

[Mark from ?]

This approach gives gun owners an excuse to do nothing.

“ Not sure why you consistently fail to understand this concept. ”

No. Hes saying that a high majority of gun owners here say 70 percent dont find the laws anti -2A or having the government give them permission slips and restrictions a big deal. So they do nothing.

The remaining 30 percent can fight like hell, but not only are you losing at the voting booth thru sheer population retardedness. But you are losing in your own group of gun owners.

500k LTCs. 23k GOAL members. Let that sink in.

That still doesn’t mean you shouldnt fight if your gonna stay but you also have to face reality.

You faced reality and have a getaway for your shit in NH. Let me know when you sell that place and want to face the full brunt of MA law.

Then you can talk about excuses…until then with all do respect…your a hypocrite that likes to tell people to stay and fight. Yet can keep anything you want in NH and are not fully subject to MA law

 

[dcmdon]

No. Hes saying that a high majority of gun owners here say 70 percent dont find the laws anti -2A or having the government give them permission slips and restrictions a big deal. So they do nothing.

The remaining 30 percent can fight like hell, but not only are you losing at the voting booth thru sheer population retardedness. But you are losing in your own group of gun owners.

500k LTCs. 23k GOAL members. Let that sink in.

That still doesn’t mean you shouldnt fight if your gonna stay but you also have to face reality.

You faced reality and have a getaway for your shit in NH. Let me know when you sell that place and want to face the full brunt of MA law.

Then you can talk about excuses…until then with all do respect…your a hypocrite that likes to tell people to stay and fight. Yet can keep anything you want in NH and are not fully subject to MA law

You also need to choose to fight where you can win.
And that is in the courts. Not in elections.

 

[Chevy 2 65]

Very key clause - no, the Mass constitution does not recognize the individual right to keep and bear arms.

Say WAT ? !

I no speak legal. Is this not stating that?

Massachusetts Constitution

malegislature.gov

Article XVII.​

The people have a right to keep and to bear arms for the common defence. And as, in time of peace, armies are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be maintained without the consent of the legislature; and the military power shall always be held in an exact subordination to the civil authority, and be governed by it.

 

[Lank]

Only in state court.

Also, the MA constitution, does not have any language guaranteeing the right to keep and bear arms.

Of course it doesnt

 

[pastera]

Say WAT ? !

I no speak legal. Is this not stating that?

Massachusetts Constitution

malegislature.gov

Article XVII.​

The people have a right to keep and to bear arms for the common defence. And as, in time of peace, armies are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be maintained without the consent of the legislature; and the military power shall always be held in an exact subordination to the civil authority, and be governed by it.

Notice the "for the common defense"
That's what gets you - no individual right.

 

[Chevy 2 65]

Notice the "for the common defense"
That's what gets you - no individual right.

Yes, my common defense.
It just doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Darksideblues42]

Notice the "for the common defense"
That's what gets you - no individual right.

The Militia act in Massachusetts is still binding law, and does require that every able bodied man 18-60(I think) have available to muster a suitable arm, powder for same, ball or shot and a mold of proper caliber for same.

 

[ridleyman]

stupid waste of time

 

[ridleyman]

Yup, that’s the GroupThink. There are a few retards who find it amusing.

25,000 Free Staters can change NH. But nearly half a million gun owners in Massachusetts can’t do anything.

There is a quantum difference between the average rural person in NH and the average suburban idiot from MA

 

[Broc Tuah]

Not sure why you consistently fail to understand this concept.

Take it easy on him. He is vaxxed and boosted.

 

[garandman]

View: https://x.com/massfiscal/status/1899184771391013143

 

[Foudre]

View: https://x.com/massfiscal/status/1899184771391013143

If she says nothing, all the problems will just disappear.