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USBPDo any departments issue a compact to their LEO's or are they all full size guns?
I have seen some Boston officers carrying 27s.
I got to ask.... OFO??
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It would be really awesome if we could do this. By policy, we are only authorized to carry our issued duty weapon, the P2000, even off duty. No off duty or backup weapons are authorized. This is a mild irritation in the middle of summer when it's 120 degrees and you'd like to carry a little j-frame or something. It's a complete pain in the a** when you're carrying on a commercial flight and have to make sure it stays concealed.Glock 23 here as well. We are lucky to have a choice in caliber and make/model. Most are glock 22s or 23s. Even a few 19s and 17s. Some guys are now starting to follow the MSP and go to M&P 45. We qualify with our duty weapon and a second weapon of our choice as long as it meets dept standards, ie 26 or 27 for road jobs, ect..
Right now, BPD issues G22/G23/G27, which gives flexibility in guns of various sizes, from full size to sub-compact, to fit people ranging from 6"6" males to 4" 11" females and everyone in between. And for various duties, ranging from uniformed patrol to undercover work. It's worked perfectly in the real world since the transition to .40 S&W in 1998. Hopefully, this policy continues into the gen4 models.
Do any departments issue a compact to their LEO's or are they all full size guns?
Right now, BPD issues G22/G23/G27, which gives flexibility in guns of various sizes, from full size to sub-compact, to fit people ranging from 6"6" males to 4" 11" females and everyone in between. And for various duties, ranging from uniformed patrol to undercover work. It's worked perfectly in the real world since the transition to .40 S&W in 1998. Hopefully, this policy continues into the gen4 models.
I have a Boston Police officer, standing next to me, who has his issued G22 in his Dept issued holster. G22s have been purchased for the last 5 years or so, to supplement the G23s and g27s. I wish we'd only issue the G23/G27 and that seems to be popular sentiment around here.
that is ass backwards, are they trying to save weight or lower hit % for patrol officers?According to the 2013 Glock Annual, Seaside Heights, NJ, patrol officers carry the Glock 27, and their detectives carry the Glock 23.
IMHO I prefer a full size (G22) for duty use. Off duty I prefer the slightly smaller G23. The slight difference is just enough to conceal a little better. I can't believe that some departments don't allow officers to have a back up or off duty guns. My department only issues duty but the chief lets us order what we want at LEO discount and we qualify with what ever we buy.
A G23 (or the G19) is the perfect issue gun, small enough for plainclothes and big enough for duty. Most people don't have large hands that require a G22 full size. Options should include the G22 (for large handed individuals) and G27 ( for plainclothes and detectives).
G22s are too large for off duty carry, and before you say "It can be concealed with the right holster", BPD requires the issue gun to be in a Safariland 6378 ALS, either issued, or privately purchased by the officer. The G23 is a lot better (and the G27 even more so) to carry concealed that way.
I also find the G23 much easier to shoot than the G22-the G22's longer barrel seems a bit "whippy" to me. The G23 seems to recoil back without "whipping upward", coming back on target faster. The same dynamic seems to be evident on the G19/G17 series as well.