Lexington MA, guy discharged a round into his own face

[Dench]

I guess what I’m wondering too though is are there that many people interested in EMS only where you could separate the two, and have a strictly EMS division even if the town had the money. I don’t hear nearly as many people going into EMS and want nothing to do with fire and rescue, as I hear people going to be firefighters that don’t want to do EMS. I’ve certainly met some, but it’s not as common. And I’m not sure logistically towns could staff two separate divisions without overlap, given the shortages in emergency response that we all currently face.

Where i worked had us running around like morons. We would only respond to ALS calls, even though the department was only licensed to EMT. So essentially we turned into bag carriers and general laborers for our local privately run ambulance service.

So, our department was subsidizing a private company. Each department f***s its guys over differently but that was my experience.

The real problem with fire doing EMS is you cant do any sort of valuable training. Reason being was we were essentially running non stop driving in circles for nonsense EMS calls.

People always say "well what do you do all day if your not doing EMS?" You train and maintain your equipment.

Down here they take the fire medic thing to new levels. They simultaneously embrace ALS while admitting they hate it.

 

[Picton]

They simultaneously embrace ALS while admitting they hate it.

...Lou Gehrig's Disease? Yeah, I don't much care for it either.

 

[Dench]

...Lou Gehrig's Disease? Yeah, I don't much care for it either.

ALS = paramedic.

Advanced life support. Something you dont want dench providing you. Need to be rescued? Somethings on fire? Im your guy. Got a boo boo? Call some one who cares.

 

[Picton]

ALS = paramedic.

Advanced life support. Something you dont want dench providing you. Need to be rescued? Somethings on fire? Im your guy. Got a boo boo? Call some one who cares.

Your lazy ass can't even put on a damn band-aid?

Sheesh. This is why I avoid Florida.

 

[Dench]

Your lazy ass can't even put on a damn band-aid?

Sheesh. This is why I avoid Florida.

Oh i definitely can. I just dont want to

 

[LakeTrout]

Where i worked had us running around like morons. We would only respond to ALS calls, even though the department was only licensed to EMT. So essentially we turned into bag carriers and general laborers for our local privately run ambulance service.

So, our department was subsidizing a private company. Each department f***s its guys over differently but that was my experience.

The real problem with fire doing EMS is you cant do any sort of valuable training. Reason being was we were essentially running non stop driving in circles for nonsense EMS calls.

People always say "well what do you do all day if your not doing EMS?" You train and maintain your equipment.

Down here they take the fire medic thing to new levels. They simultaneously embrace ALS while admitting they hate it.

That is a complete cluster f*** and awful management. What a waste of time and money.

 

[LakeTrout]

ALS = paramedic.

Advanced life support. Something you dont want dench providing you. Need to be rescued? Somethings on fire? Im your guy. Got a boo boo? Call some one who cares.

Do you have AEMTs in that state or is it just basics and medics? Not sure if the A level solves anything but some states employ a lot of them on fire departments and a lot of departments don’t require a medic license.

 

[Dench]

Do you have AEMTs in that state or is it just basics and medics? Not sure if the A level solves anything but some states employ a lot of them on fire departments and a lot of departments don’t require a medic license.

AEMTs are starting to be more common, nh loves aemts.

In MA they were rare (i think "intermediate").

I think the license is tied into the MD directing the EMS program.

 

[Garys]

MA has some, but not a lot of AEMTs. Other states I'm aware of have a lot more. Rhode Island has a lot of them, but they call them EMT-Cardiac. Rhode Island is still stuck in the 1980s when it comes to EMS. Maybe the 1990s.

AEMTs are starting to be more common, nh loves aemts.

In MA they were rare (i think "intermediate").

I think the license is tied into the MD directing the EMS program.

 

[Garys]

Where you are, do they staff the ambulance with two firefighters and an officer?

Where i worked had us running around like morons. We would only respond to ALS calls, even though the department was only licensed to EMT. So essentially we turned into bag carriers and general laborers for our local privately run ambulance service.

So, our department was subsidizing a private company. Each department f***s its guys over differently but that was my experience.

The real problem with fire doing EMS is you cant do any sort of valuable training. Reason being was we were essentially running non stop driving in circles for nonsense EMS calls.

People always say "well what do you do all day if your not doing EMS?" You train and maintain your equipment.

Down here they take the fire medic thing to new levels. They simultaneously embrace ALS while admitting they hate it.

 

[Dench]

Where you are, do they staff the ambulance with two firefighters and an officer?

Where I worked had no ambulances, we assisted the private provider for reasons

 

[slap shot]

Can we change the thread title to life and times of the paramedic so I don’t keep coming here expecting discussion about the guy that gave himself a lead facial?

 

[Bodhisattva]

I’m one of those rare people that only wants to do EMS and not FD shit. Only thing on the fire side that interests me is heavy rescue.

Been in EMS over a decade and I still get excited doing crashes. Specifically the bad ones. The more chaotic the better. By chaotic I mean severity of the crash, difficulty of extrication and higher acuity of the patient(s). Just something about racing the “clock” with all those moving parts involved get me excited to do my job. I really enjoy the higher acuity medicals as well, just not like nasty wrecks.

Here in CT things seem to be trending towards EMS becoming hospital based. I’ve been looking for the third service job, but most places that are hiring for that pay terribly compared to FF/Medic.

CT doesn’t really embrace the AEMT. Some of the volly services have been pushing for it but it’s just not a thing. I had my AEMT but could never practice at that level, and said f*** it, time to move up.

 

[clampett]

and even a few funeral home run services are still out there.

I never heard of a funeral home running an ambulance service.
You would think that would be a conflict of interest.
They would always be taking the long slow way to get to the hospital.

 

[drgrant]

Can we change the thread title to life and times of the paramedic so I don’t keep coming here expecting discussion about the guy that gave himself a lead facial?

I was kind of hoping that we would end up hearing the inside scoop at some point or another...

 

[Dench]

I never heard of a funeral home running an ambulance service.
You would think that would be a conflict of interest.
They would always be taking the long slow way to get to the hospital.

Lyons in Danvers had it until somewhat recently. Atlantic EMS bought them out.

 

[Garys]

I'm not familiar enough with how Lyons operated, but I know that it was only a couple of years ago that DiLuzio Funeral Home in Keene got rid of their ambulance service. And there was Cagianno Funeral Home ran an ambulance in Winthorp. They sold the ambulance to Cataldo about the time Winthorp Hospital closed.

Lyons in Danvers had it until somewhat recently. Atlantic EMS bought them out.