M&P 45 Trigger - Holy Mother!

M1911 said:
Agreed. But if you buy a S&W J-frame you'll also need to a trigger job, and that has been true since long before the MA 1998 silliness.
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yea, but slicking a j-frame action is EASY.

Wolff spring kit is ~ $6.50 w/ a C&R discount on brownells.

take a fine/extra fine india stone and clean up the rebound slide and DA sear. reassemble and lube carefully.

took all of, i dunno, maybe 30 minutes? (my buddy did the stoning, as i dont own a set of stones yet...but it didnt take him more than 10 minutes from start to finish). spring kit install took me ~ 45 minutes, but that was more because i was an idiot and let the handspring fall out of place (and it took a few tries to figure out how the hell it went back in!)
 
Jasper said:
yea, but slicking a j-frame action is EASY.
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The hard part is getting the @#$!@@!@ rebound spring back into the damn thing. But, yes, a simple spring and rebound-slide polish is easy. I've done 3 of them and I'm not mechanically inclined.

Of course, the guys here who have done their own M&P trigger jobs will say the same thing about the M&P [wink]
 
Ray-500 said:
Not to tout any product....but have you tried Kimber? Have two in .45 ACP and triggers are fantastic....surprise shots are normal. The entire platform, IMHO, is great, and accuracy is dead on. [grin]
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Can't buy a new Kimber in MA. My Kimbers triggers were decent from the factory, but I wouldn't call them fantastic. I've treated all 3 of them to trigger jobs at a gunsmith.
 
So I finally tested out the M&P and as everyone else confirms, the trigger is pretty nasty. I'm going to get a trigger job on it next week sometime, and I have been contemplating the trigger weight that I want. Any suggestions from those more experienced? I will be using this as a CCW and my g/f will be using it on our trip to front sight so safety is a bit of a concern too. Her hands aren't that strong and she was complaining of the pull as well, lol.
 
MasterShinken said:
So I finally tested out the M&P and as everyone else confirms, the trigger is pretty nasty. I'm going to get a trigger job on it next week sometime, and I have been contemplating the trigger weight that I want. Any suggestions from those more experienced? I will be using this as a CCW and my g/f will be using it on our trip to front sight so safety is a bit of a concern too. Her hands aren't that strong and she was complaining of the pull as well, lol.
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I set mine at 4lbs with the trigger bow engaging the sear at the end of the travel, crisp break no overtravel and a short rest. If she has small hands it will be easy for her to work the trigger
 
I just bought a new M&P today. Yes the trigger sucks, but that suckiness can be fixed. Other than that the ergonomics are very good.
 
How heavy a trigger

For a carry gun I would suggest a trigger pull of 4.5 to 5.5 pounds. The weight of the pull is not the major issue for me. What I care about is the smoooooothness when pressing the trigger.
The best example that I can give is a Springfield XD with a 6.5 trigger pull that is so smooth that it is almost absurd. Several folks that have shot it, said that it was dangerous becuse it had a 1,5 pound trigger pull. When I used the Lyman Trigger Pull Gage in front of them, they were shocked.
 
JimConway said:
For a carry gun I would suggest a trigger pull of 4.5 to 5.5 pounds. The weight of the pull is not the major issue for me. What I care about is the smoooooothness when pressing the trigger.
The best example that I can give is a Springfield XD with a 6.5 trigger pull that is so smooth that it is almost absurd. Several folks that have shot it, said that it was dangerous becuse it had a 1,5 pound trigger pull. When I used the Lyman Trigger Pull Gage in front of them, they were shocked.
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Great point. I have a Smith and Wesson 642CT with a 10lb trigger, (I think), but it's very smooth. The M&P trigger felt like it was traveling through sand and then hitting a wall before it broke...It felt like an eternity until I heard: "click" and it took an extra squeeze to get it there... Initially, I thought it was just this particular .45, until I tried another in Adams, and yet another in Pittsfield. All three were identical - horrible...I would think that even with the 10lb requirement in MA, something could be done in the manufacturing process to make this trigger at least marginally acceptable...
 
I had Bob at Hunter's in Weymouth do the trigger on my M&P 40. Cost me $65 and I had the gun back the next day (granted, I think he was just slow at the moment). He did an awesome job on it, he replaced all the springs and polished the internals. The end result is a super smotth and light trigger, and the reset on the trigger cannot be heard and barely felt!
 
I may have over-emphasised the "barely felt" part of the reset, although it is very light. As far as I'm concerned, this trigger job is perfect, smooth as glass.
 
If anything, I'd want it to be positive. One big problem for me with the M+Ps is that on some guns it was hard to detect the reset. Then again, if the reset can get shortened somehow, probably doesn't matter a whole lot,
though.

-Mike
 
This past weekend, Mike and I taught a special class for armed security guards. Before the class, we found out that all of the guards would be using M&P30s. Being the bright people that we are, both of us bought M&Ps so that we could teach the course better. When we got the guns we had a chance to fire about 100 rounds each and we both concluded that we would either get the trigger work done or sell the guns as soon as the class was over.
Last week we had trigger jobs done on both guns, are very pleased with the results. The M&Ps that we have are very good guns and will not be sold to the unwary. They are both very accurate, easy to shoot, and we are keeping them. Thank you Mike LaRocca for the quick turn arround and the superb work
 
Had my M&P trigger job done by Dave Santurri (santurriltd.com) in N. Attleboro. He did a fantastic job, smooth and lighter (but not too light) trigger. 1 day turn around time. Charged $89. Would highly recommend his services.
 
M&P Triggers

I have an M&P 9 that has a ~6 lb. trigger after some work by a local gun smith. I thought dry firing would smooth it out further. I broke the striker in the gun twice while dry firing. S & W kindly fixed the gun both times but I now dry fire using snap caps only! By the way, they make an M&P 45 with an external safety for the military. That would eliminate the problem completely but it's not certified for MA!!!!

Ray
 
Hi Ray,

Sucks about your striker.... who did the work on your trigger? I've been dry firing my M&P 9mm compact all day, had trigger job done, no issues. I should get snap caps anyway though....

Dave
 
Better to have a competent M&P gunsmith work on it. Cheap money, save the aggravation. Both Dave Santuri and Greg Derr did great jobs on the M&Ps that I own. He shoots frequently at Braintree R&P so meeting him there from the North Shore is probably 1/2 the distance to Marshfield.
 
Santurri charged me $89 and got it back the next day, Derr was asking $65 and said 1.5 weeks. Great job by Santurri, and I'll chalk the price difference up to the drastic difference in turn around time.
 
Each time (twice) that I had Greg do work for me he quoted 2 weeks and called me within 1 week that the work was done (3 guns 1st time, 2 guns 2nd time). I met him at one club one Sunday and met him at another club a week later.
 
Any one know if the Apex trigger is as great as everyone says? I'm very interested in the M&P 45 but after shooting the 9 this past weekend I had sworn off the line. It actually hurt to shoot! I then fired the glock 21 and it was perfect! If I can get a smoother trigger I'll be one very happy guy!
 
I had the Apex trigger in my M&P9c and it was one of the sweetest triggers I've ever squeezed.The factory trigger in any M&P is an absolute disgrace. That being said, I recently had the opportunity to fire a Sig P250 and it was a pretty decent factory trigger and the gun was almost $100 cheaper than a M&P .40! They also make caliber change kits for the 250 which is an entire gun less the trigger group. The local shop that I saw it at was selling the kits for $295 and the 45ACP P250 for $450, so for less than $800 you can essentially buy 2 BRAND NEW SIGS!!! Can you tell I'm a Sig guy...?
 
My gf has an m&p 40c and I was thinking of getting her a trigger job, but she is an SPO would there be any legal issues if she had to use her gun on duty with having a trigger job done? That is my only concern on whether doing it or not.
 
jdb723 said:
I had the Apex trigger in my M&P9c and it was one of the sweetest triggers I've ever squeezed.The factory trigger in any M&P is an absolute disgrace. That being said, I recently had the opportunity to fire a Sig P250 and it was a pretty decent factory trigger and the gun was almost $100 cheaper than a M&P .40! They also make caliber change kits for the 250 which is an entire gun less the trigger group. The local shop that I saw it at was selling the kits for $295 and the 45ACP P250 for $450, so for less than $800 you can essentially buy 2 BRAND NEW SIGS!!! Can you tell I'm a Sig guy...?
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The P250 is a flaming piece of crap.
 

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