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Litigating to defend garbage costs resources and budgets. I don’t dare assume that they’re being practical about it though. Not at the expense of their ideology.
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MA Gun Grab 2024: Senate bill S.2572
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Litigating to defend garbage costs resources and budgets. I don’t dare assume that they’re being practical about it though. Not at the expense of their ideology.
Another bite from the news:
www.westernmassnews.com
State Representative Carlos Gonzalez speaks on gun reform following Springfield officer shooting
The State House and Senate are looking to find common ground to combine gun reform bills that address both gun violence and possibly repeat offenders.
www.westernmassnews.com
JDL
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Take the criminals off the streets and put them in jail, do not just put them back on the streets like they do in Springfield. Every time I read about one of these cretins getting arrested they were out on bail for one or two previous gun charges they are already out on bail for. So called assault weapons are not the problem and are not that common, however Glock switch guns are turning up more and more in Springfield and in the hands of kids under 16 and these even when caught with a Glock switch gun they are back on the street. I also wager Rep. Gonzales is one of the first to scream racial profiling when these arests happen.Another bite from the news:
State Representative Carlos Gonzalez speaks on gun reform following Springfield officer shooting
The State House and Senate are looking to find common ground to combine gun reform bills that address both gun violence and possibly repeat offenders.
They'll never litigate, because they'll never enforce unless it's rolled into lower-hanging charges. They'll just talk big, rattle their sabers, and secure compliance from those who haven't yet understood that noncompliance with an unconstitutional law is a duty.
That'll be all they want.
He can hope all he wants. Let’s see if it actually happens. Sounds like it may not happen this session but they haven’t given up on it.Another bite from the news:
State Representative Carlos Gonzalez speaks on gun reform following Springfield officer shooting
The State House and Senate are looking to find common ground to combine gun reform bills that address both gun violence and possibly repeat offenders.
If they overreach and get smacked down by SCOTUS it will set a new precedent.
They don’t want that.
They are better off waiting till next year after the dust settles from the current cases.
I’d love to see some unconstitutional crap go into law just to be rejected by the court.
That would be a big win for us.
Carlos is a f***ing moron. I’d love to hear him explain how the anything in the latest bill would have prevented that shootingAnother bite from the news:
State Representative Carlos Gonzalez speaks on gun reform following Springfield officer shooting
The State House and Senate are looking to find common ground to combine gun reform bills that address both gun violence and possibly repeat offenders.
I think the discrepancy between Day’s quote saying gun reform isn’t moving and Gonzalez’s quote stating they are close and hope to pass it by the end of the session says it all. They’re at a stalemate and can’t agree on much of anything.
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The State House and Senate are looking to find common ground to combine gun reform bills that address both gun violence and possibly repeat offenders.
I’ll give them a hint if they were in jail they wouldn’t be repeat offenders and I would they? But God forbid you know enforce the law not make new ones. That still won’t be enforced?
Tallahassee
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Friday is for grandfathering.
HorizontalHunter
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I hope it dies there. Not likely; but one can hope.
Mesatchornug
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What about persons who aren't yet even fathers?
pastera
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They knew that the minute the lawyers looked at it - this bill was and is a means to get the 2nd in front of SCOTUS again but just not this SCOTUS.
pastera
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You can just identify as a father or or grandfather... Not sure if we are far enough along that yo can declare yourself a twinkie and tell the legislature to bite me yet but I'm okay with it.
pastera
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This is the exact sentiment I've been pushing.
I think they thought they had the Whitehouse in the the bag and would get to replace at least Thomas if not both Thomas and Alito. So in order to show off their shiny new justices and pay the right back for Dobbs and Bruen, they needed a blockbuster case in the system and ripe for SC review. And HD.4420 was born and metastasized into S.2584
This cancerous tumor isn't going away - it may be held up until next session in order to keep gun control and confiscation out of the news during an election but it won't go away until the SCOTUS closes any avenue of attack.
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EJFudd
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Funny how the guy who represents the highest violent crime district in the highest violent crime city in all of Massachusetts wants to further restrict our rights to defend ourselves from his high violence constituents.
pastera
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Does the mob want you to be able to defend yourself from their enforcers?Funny how the guy who represents the highest violent crime district in the highest violent crime city in all of Massachusetts wants to further restrict our rights to defend ourselves from his high violence constituents.
Neither does the "legal" mob.
Taipan01
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Through the butterfly effect.
pastera
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It wouldn't - that's why they need a follow on law to squeeze tighter
The case that happened over the winter where the person who shot the pregnant woman...that assailant was out on gun charges. All the laws needed were already on the books, but it doesn't mean anything if they don't get enforced. Same will happen with anything new...criminals going to criminal.
This time it will mean something.....trust us.
pdm
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Or, and now hear me out, we could just put them all out on the Grand Banks as fish food to replenish the fish stocks. It's a modest proposal.
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The Flemish Cap would be better. The Swordfish out there need sustenance too!
JDL
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So it is OK if you are arrested on a gun charge or shooting if you only get caught once.
What is this the first time free amendment?
What is this the first time free amendment?
HorizontalHunter
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AKA Bail reform.
They are talking about pre-trial release, as in BEFORE you are convicted. If it's the first time you are not, yet, a criminal, and it would be hard to justify holding them without bail. And since they are talking firearms crimes and not just violent crimes, so a simple possession is included, do you really want them to be able to hold anyone who has been accused, with no past record, without bail?
Consider this.
Guy walks into a post office, forgets that's a no no with a gun. He has no record and has an LTC. But it's still a firearms charge. Do you want them to hold him without bail till trial?
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