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COME ON ITS A F'N GARAND!!! They took more of a beating just getting shipped back from Greece and turkey .......... if you have not seen how they are jamed loosely packed into crates you might not want to.......mosins get white glove treatment vs the returns cmp gets.You probably should set the rifle down a little easier.
And just need to practice more. Especially with keeping the rifle steady and keeping my sight alignment/picture consistent after each shot.
Ever been to an Appleseed? I found it to be helpful, shooting wise, and had a great time. Using a sling makes all the difference in the world.
Finally tried my 30-06 reloads for the first time this afternoon.
Made some using Hornady 150 gr FMJs under 48.5 gr of IMR 4064 ~3.30" COL. Light crimp (ya I know no need to).
And Hornady 168 gr match BTHPs under 45 gr of IMR 4064 ~3.30" COL no crimp.
150s @100 yards:
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168s @100 yards:
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Wow what a difference in accuracy between these bullets. Granted the loads are starting charges and I had a failure to eject with one of the 150 loads and the clip didn't eject one time too. So I think I need to up the charge a bit as that's never happened with the ~120 hxp rounds I've fired. The 150s were lightly crimped which isn't necessary. Also I went with a longer COL than the manual suggested (went with the COL of the hxp rounds as they work fine).
They definitely were softer shooting than the hxp rounds. But I don't think I need to change much with the 168 loads since I'm keeping them all in a 3" circle at 100 yards. More experimenting with the 150 gr loads though.
Did you have the rifle apart before you shot these groups ? If you did it will take several shots for the rifle to settle.... My rifles usually take about 15 shots before they settle in. Once your done refinishing your stock and doing what ever else. you will see your rifle will shoot better and more consistent if you do not remove the action or trigger group often.
what no range report, target pics. now you need to find a cmp garand shoot in your area and get off the bench.....
You probably should set the rifle down a little easier.
COME ON ITS A F'N GARAND!!! They took more of a beating just getting shipped back from Greece and turkey .......... if you have not seen how they are jamed loosely packed into crates you might not want to.......mosins get white glove treatment vs the returns cmp gets.
I bought the led sled when dicks had it on sale and I had a 20% off coupon. kicked it down to 75$. I understand about putting cash to ammo and bullets. Although you will find a load that shoots better using a rest.......
If you can keep your shots in a 3" group in the center of the targets @ 100 yds
MR31 your lowest score would be a 8 or 20 shots 160/200 prone
SR21 " " 9 or 90/100 10 shots in 70 sec. prone
SR-1 " " 10 or 100/100. 10shots slow standing & 10 shots in 70 sec. sitting for a total of 200 between the 2 stages
so yes that's good if you can hold that 3" group through all 4 stages you will shoot a 460/500
Lyman data is it for garand or some test rifle they have.
some garands like different bullets....
Each load book and manufacture will have their own best also. Ex: Hornady 7th manual does not list 4064 for 150s in the garand section. hornady claims the best combo for them was 168 AMAX with N150, N140 & H4895? Hornady garand data has imr 4064 Max charge listed @ 47.2 grains with 168s.... my rifles seem to like that 45ish area for the powders I have tried.
my winter project is to see just how light I can load and still get reliable function.... I'm shooting 200 yards or less with mine so Max loads I feel are not needed. Eventually I will work on a cast bullet load for M1...if I can get 3" moa cast loads I will use those for 100 yd fun shoots....elcheapo!
Did you read that article "reloading for the m1 garand" look at some of those loads!! Stout!
With out seeing the jam ? Did you grease the garand per CMP or Garand Gear directions ?
Bad clips can cause problems also. The Op Rod spring can be a cause of many issues to.
loose case cyl lockscrew ? I dont know enough about 4064 to comment but I think in operational M1 you might be shocked at how low of a powder charge will cycle a M1....
My lock screws have not come loose since I started using the 1/4 drive T hands driver....I do check them every time and bring wrench with me....most times.
Looking @ your bent bullet ........ was it actually in the chamber? looks like bullet tip snagged top of barrel area and croaked the round...
diagnose section says.. point of bullet whipping out of line...cause follower and follower rod function, improper tension of the clip and follower on cartridge.
Failure to eject empty clip - clip ejector upward impulse not strong enough due to distorted or weak clip ejector or lack of free travel due to clip binding, clip latch or oprod catch binding. Cartridge ejecting to slowly knocking clip back in Due to follower slide interferes with cartridge, improper timing.
all 4 of my service grades have had form of quirky opperation at times. They all seemed to vanish once I installed the orion7 spring over haul kit.?
clips where designed for one time use. I had a batch of clips from 1972 HXP that where constant problems. would seat or eject. would get stuck inside mag well and would only come out if you dropped the trigger assembly....
Or its telling you to not use those bulk fmj when it sees you have some good food for it!
My use of 4064 was short lived I only had 1lb. Back then 4064 was not as plentiful as Varget and 4895. I only use Varget because it is the best over all in my many applications...
My recent HRA that I did the accuracy gain thread on with HXP will shoot 3" consistently with HXP
That is the key in IMHO is constancy . I have a SA 1952 that even after all I have done after 16 rounds the groups open up no matter the ammo.
My HRA with LMR barrel took some tweeking to get groups like this with HXP
I suggest getting a Turner 1907 or NM sling 'second'. It's usually pretty difficult to find the cosmetic 'flaw' that renders them seconds.
Your M1 should have swivels already.
So if I want a good sling for shooting not just some reproduction to match with the rifle, what would you recommend? I saw in one of the other garand threads you had a link for one of these:
http://www.m1garand.com/store/m1_garand_web_od_cotton_sling.html
I don't want to go crazy and spend $50+ on a sling either lol.