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NRA to Aide Canadians UPDATE
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How about if they use my money to help fight for my rights first. I'm a life member and big supporter of the NRA but when have you ever heard the words NRA and Massachusetts used in the same sentence?
Pilgrim said:
That's been my gripe with the NRA for a long time. They seem to ignore the states that are "lost." When we're the states that needs their help more than any. Yes, we have GOAL, but it would be nice to also have the backing of some big bucks like the NRA.
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I don't like NRA's politics either, but in fairness . . .
NRA has given large chunks of money to GOAL at least a few times in order to allow GOAL to fight the battles in MA. Someone at GOAL can probably flesh this out a bit more as I don't recall any specifics that I can point to.
NRA has given large chunks of money to GOAL at least a few times in order to allow GOAL to fight the battles in MA. Someone at GOAL can probably flesh this out a bit more as I don't recall any specifics that I can point to.
LenS said:
Don't get me wrong. I'm a memeber of the NRA as well. But imagine if we had not only GOAL, but the NRA as well fighting the fights in MA and CA. Not just GOAL with some money from the NRA. Full fledged involvment from the NRA would make a difference. At least I think so, they have ways of putting pressure on people.
+1 with C-Pher. The NRA NEEDS to lend it's name to the fight. Politicians aren't afraid of local organizations, they're afraid of NATIONAL organizations.
I wish the NRA would become as vicious as GOA or JPFO.
Don't get me wrong either, the NRA is far better than they used to be. But they still need to get better. If they were to turn around a couple of the "lost states", they might just wake up the majority of gun owners in this country.
I wish the NRA would become as vicious as GOA or JPFO.
Don't get me wrong either, the NRA is far better than they used to be. But they still need to get better. If they were to turn around a couple of the "lost states", they might just wake up the majority of gun owners in this country.
and BTW, what have the Canadians done to support our right to keep and bear?
Just constantly blame us for filling their country with 'evil' illegal guns and blame their crime on us.
NRA should say, 'screw them'.
Just constantly blame us for filling their country with 'evil' illegal guns and blame their crime on us.
NRA should say, 'screw them'.
Glad to see NRA help *SOMEBODY*. Up to now, I see the 2nd Amdnt Fdn, GOA, and Legal Defense Fund carrying the real brunt of of the national gun-rights fight. All the while the NRA panders to their "gentlemens' shooting club" membership, and postures for photo shoots.
I dropped out of the NRA after the gun-clubbers destroyed all the gains made at the Pheonix Revolution. No desire to go back; even if I can't join the 'better' gub clubs without NRA membership.
I dropped out of the NRA after the gun-clubbers destroyed all the gains made at the Pheonix Revolution. No desire to go back; even if I can't join the 'better' gub clubs without NRA membership.
Garys
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Dirigo said:
The NRA is also the only organization that did anything about the NOLA gun confiscations. You'd think the ACLU would have jumped in to defend 2A rights, but they didn't. Okay, I was just kidding about that.
I have to disagree here. The NRA has done a lot for us, even if it's not at the local level. I'd have to wonder what % of Mass. gun owners belong to the NRA. I'd also wonder what % of Mass. residents are gun owners. Finally, I'd like to see what % of gun owners belong to GOAL. I was both a gun owner and NRA member for years before I joined GOAL. Which was pretty dumb on my part, frankly.
The NRA is going to put their money and their effort where they see the most benefit to their membership. GOAL does a pretty good job of representing us here, so maybe there isn't that much need or incentive for the NRA to become active here.
I'd like to see more NRA activities here, but I wonder how many members have asked for them to bring more programs here?
Gary
Garys:
Maybe that was a bit out of line. But GOA is a lean organization with political action as its only goal. NRA has many other activities vying for limited $ (like national shoots, support to local clubs, membership drives, shooter education, and non-shooter safety training) .
Were you kidding about the NRA & NOLA, too? GOA took direct action. What did the NRA do besides complain?
Maybe that was a bit out of line. But GOA is a lean organization with political action as its only goal. NRA has many other activities vying for limited $ (like national shoots, support to local clubs, membership drives, shooter education, and non-shooter safety training) .
Garys
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If the National Rifle Association didn't do anything, than I wonder who the NRA that's listed here, http://tinyurl.com/blzcn is? Ahh, I know, it must be the National Restaraunt Association. If you read the suit, you see NRA and Second Amendment Foundation, you don't see GOA, even filing an Amicus brief. Here is the consent decree http://tinyurl.com/8kvyp. Again NRA and SAF.
GOA did assist a LA house member is pushing through a "Sense of the Legislature" resolution. That's a non binding measure that urges the Gov. to do certain things. You'll also note that the GOA measure passed in mid November, almost two months after the Sept. 23 consent decree.
Your statement wasn't out of line, but it certainly was 100% wrong.
Gary
GOA did assist a LA house member is pushing through a "Sense of the Legislature" resolution. That's a non binding measure that urges the Gov. to do certain things. You'll also note that the GOA measure passed in mid November, almost two months after the Sept. 23 consent decree.
Your statement wasn't out of line, but it certainly was 100% wrong.
Gary
100% wrong? That's never happened before. Right. Probably happen again, too.
The first link works. From their past activities, I expect SAF to be active. I do have a high regard for Alan Gottlieb's group. I am stunned to see the NRA do something meaningful. I don't expect this action will change my opinion of them, though. I believe Neal Knox was wrong to stay a member after Pheonix. Just my belief.
Ok, got to the consent decree via the 2nd Amndmt Fdn site. As a part of the decree, the mayor continues to assert his right to confiscate legally owned firearms under LA law (LSA-RS 29:721)?
Kind of a "I didn't do it; my Sheriff didn't do it. But We'll return the guns we didn't confiscate; and I maintain that we can do it again, if I want."
The first link works. From their past activities, I expect SAF to be active. I do have a high regard for Alan Gottlieb's group. I am stunned to see the NRA do something meaningful. I don't expect this action will change my opinion of them, though. I believe Neal Knox was wrong to stay a member after Pheonix. Just my belief.
Ok, got to the consent decree via the 2nd Amndmt Fdn site. As a part of the decree, the mayor continues to assert his right to confiscate legally owned firearms under LA law (LSA-RS 29:721)?
Kind of a "I didn't do it; my Sheriff didn't do it. But We'll return the guns we didn't confiscate; and I maintain that we can do it again, if I want."
McLellan to NRA: Stay clear of Canadian election
http://ottsun.canoe.ca/News/Election/2005/12/06/1340311-sun.html
http://ottsun.canoe.ca/News/Election/2005/12/06/1340311-sun.html
Garys
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Ray that's the great thing about this country. You can have one opinion, I can have another, and anyone else can have a third. The best part is no one will hold your being wrong against you! <G>
Maybe it's their PR machine, but the NRA seems to do quite a bit for gun owners. Certainly at the federal level.
Gary
Maybe it's their PR machine, but the NRA seems to do quite a bit for gun owners. Certainly at the federal level.
Gary
