Nutrition question

[Taka]

Found these when searching for calorie dense foods.

Might be of interest if you are trying to pack for a long hike.

Highly “Packable” Foods and Caloric Values (http://sectionhiker.com/how-to-pack-a-lot-of-backpacking-food-into-a-small-space/)

The caloric and nutritional density of the food I pack also helps keep the volume of the food I need to bring by weight fairly low – at about 1.75 pounds per day. I try to eat foods that offer at least 100 calories of nutrition per ounce, but I augment this by adding olive oil to them to, particularly at dinner. At 240 calories an ounce, olive oil is one of the most calorically dense foods available because it’s pure fat.

Olive oil – 240 calories/ounce
Roasted Sunflower seeds with salt – 166 calories/ounce
Roasted Peanuts with salt – 166 calories/ounce
Roasted Cashew pieces with salt 163 - calories/ounce
Banana Chips – 160 calories/ounce
Logan Bread – 126 calories/ounce
Granulated White Sugar – 110 calories/ounce
Pound Cake – 109 calories/ounce
Dried cheese tortellini- 105 calories/ounce
Uncooked Quinoa – 104 calories
Cliff bars – 96 calories/ounce


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http://www.traditionaltx.us/images/PEMMICAN.pdf

 

[Mike-Mike]

LOUIS NIX IS a six-foot-three, 350lb defensive lineman for Notre Dame. If he’s running at you with a football, our advice is to get the hell out of his way.

http://www.thescore.ie/notre-dame-louis-dix-880627-Apr2013/

Just sayin?

 

[irishfan]

LOUIS NIX IS a six-foot-three, 350lb defensive lineman for Notre Dame. If he’s running at you with a football, our advice is to get the hell out of his way.

http://www.thescore.ie/notre-dame-louis-dix-880627-Apr2013/

Just sayin?

Gotta love the Big Lou comment. Wish he still was at ND

 

[FrugalFannie]

Not anymore. I'm thinking a 2 mile per hour average, two half hour and one one hour break, plus orientation stops. 2 days (40-45miles) maximum, to get where I need to go. I know I'm heavy, but I'm also tragically funny and good looking. I used to be able to do 45 miles per dau with 25 kilos ruck, FRF2 bolt action, backup FAMAS, 120 rds of .308 and 250 rounds of 5.56, plus water. At some point, your head stops marching and your feet just keep going.

I don't think caloric intake will be your biggest issue. Back to back days of 20+ miles, even if you are in shape but not conditioned for that type of activity, are at best grueling and at worst impossible.

Go walk 20 miles today. no heavy backpack, just some water and snacks and make it a loop so you can return home for lunch. then tell me tomorrow how you feel and go hit another 20 miles

 

[Archilochus]

Since it sounds like you have a destination in mind (rather than just taking to the woods to try and survive) - I would suggest some caches - both at your destination, and along possible routes. Should ease the carry-load considerably.

 

[Another_David]

I don't think caloric intake will be your biggest issue. Back to back days of 20+ miles, even if you are in shape but not conditioned for that type of activity, are at best grueling and at worst impossible.

Go walk 20 miles today. no heavy backpack, just some water and snacks and make it a loop so you can return home for lunch. then tell me tomorrow how you feel and go hit another 20 miles

+1 you'll never know until you try it

 

[fencer]

I don't think caloric intake will be your biggest issue. Back to back days of 20+ miles, even if you are in shape but not conditioned for that type of activity, are at best grueling and at worst impossible.

Go walk 20 miles today. no heavy backpack, just some water and snacks and make it a loop so you can return home for lunch. then tell me tomorrow how you feel and go hit another 20 miles

Pffft... My Dad used to do it every day to get to school. Up hill both ways!

 

[MSant]

But was it in the snow fighting 100 degree heat?

 

[MetalgodZ]

LOUIS NIX IS a six-foot-three, 350lb defensive lineman for Notre Dame. If he’s running at you with a football, our advice is to get the hell out of his way.

http://www.thescore.ie/notre-dame-louis-dix-880627-Apr2013/

Just sayin?

Damn.

That said, throw 70 lbs of ruck on the dude and ask him how he feels after 20+ miles/day. I can't even imagine the joint damage that would ensue without SIGNIFICANT training and stabilizing muscle on a 50y/o body.

Frenchman, good luck to you, and I seriously hope that you consider more than the calorie factor here. Overshoot for calories, stay heavy on the carbs, plan to get as much water from the terrain as you realistically can so that you're not carrying it, and be realistic about your range. Might be do-able on the flat, but your abilities and caloric requirements are going to severely restrict you on harsher terrain.

I don't think caloric intake will be your biggest issue. Back to back days of 20+ miles, even if you are in shape but not conditioned for that type of activity, are at best grueling and at worst impossible.

Go walk 20 miles today. no heavy backpack, just some water and snacks and make it a loop so you can return home for lunch. then tell me tomorrow how you feel and go hit another 20 miles

^^^ This. I could hack a day or two of 20 miles now, at a little over half your age, and a little under half your weight, and with a desk job. I do semi-regularly do 10-12 mi over the course of a day up in White Mtns National Forest, but I'm not sure I could do it with 70 lbs of ruck.

 

[irishfan]

Or, I know I'll get crap for this, maybe try to diet a bit? Not just for this SHTF, but for your long term health, knees as you age, etc

 

[JayMcB]

Dude. Next time , stack the goddamn tile next to the truck. It's okay if it gets cold.

It was an example of what you can do if you decide you have to. I'm trying to make the point that 9 miles was hard, 20 would have S U C K E D.

The toolbag up there who plows my driveway would have driven right over/through it the next time he came through. It was snowing up there just about every damn day last winter when it wasn't below 5 ddegrees, and I had no desire to lose what pieces there would have been left until May when the last of the snow melted.

My nightmare scenario is having to NEED to get up there in the dead of winter and being deprived of my existing planned modes of transportation and being reduced to 'on foot'. I've done enough winter camping to know I can do it, but it is over 100 miles from my primary residence. I'm hoping for at least part of the trip to not be on foot, be it bike/car/truck/deuce/atv/sled

 

[weekendracer]

I'll jump into this one more time. I read a lot of good legitimate responses and things to consider for the OP.

You have a legit fear, you have a goal, seems reasonable to start working at least a little towards making the goal attainable before the feared event happens.

The more I think about bugging out with 3 kids, the more I run into almost insurmountable odds of everyone making it safely. Food, water, shelter for a family of 5 is a lot more convoluted than a single person, so I have started working on getting in better shape, I'm thinking of taking a class on foraging since there is no way I can carry enough food for a nearly cross country trek. This is how I'm using the time before an event to get ready for something.

 

[frenchman]

Don't get me wrong, guys. The miles per day are not set in stone. If it takes a day longer, so be it. I know that 3 kilometers per hour is nothing but a comfy "walk on the beach" pace. Of course the bones will hurt and there will be plenty of weakness leaving the body, but that can be ignored to a certain extent. It's just pain.
Thanks for all the replies, girls. I appreciate it.