Question: Applying for a Class A LTC w/No Restrictions in Medford, MA: Please help.

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I'm new to this forum, so hello to everyone. I'm going to attempt to obtain a Class A LTC with no restrictions (All Lawful Purposes) but first let me give you some general background information that may influence this task in some way.

I'm currently a resident of Medford, MA and attend college in Boston. I work at a gas station that has been robbed between 4 and 6 times since 2003 when I started working here (I was 17 at that point, 22 now.) Luckily, I was never present during any of the robberies (I always have a baseball bat ready in case but that doesn't make me feel to safe honestly). The chief of police lives on my street (about 2 houses down from me) and I know his son (a limited amount, anyway). They probably don't know me by name and we aren't close by any stretch, but they would recognize me and I've never been anything but polite to them. My gas station is cop friendly (free coffee), and I've gotten to at least recognize roughly four to five officers since I've worked here (ie, I know what cigarettes they want, what their lottery numbers are, etc etc). My record is 100% spotless (not even a speeding ticket) and I learned how to shoot when I was about ten years old. I haven't taken any courses yet but I obviously have to and want to before I apply for my license. This would be my FIRST attempt to ever apply for any type of weapons license


Now here come the questions, and there are a few, so if you can help out with any one question or all of them (especially if you are from Medford and have obtained or tried to obtain an LTC) it'd be extremely appreciated!

To be blunt, I've heard that sometimes people are discriminated against based on their gender, race, appearance, etc, so I was wondering if the fact that I look like a metalhead (long hair, goatee, lotsa camoflague clothing, death metal t-shirts) is going to negatively effect the outcome of my application for a Class A LTC without restrictions? I really don't want to end up with a Class A LTC with restrictions and have to wait 5-6 more years for the upgrade. Obviously, I want what most people want: A class A LTC with no restrictions. I'm not going to go to the police station when I apply dressed up like a hoodlum obviously, but you can tell I'm a metalhead regardless of how I am currently dressed.

Another interesting situation: I don't have my own car, but I do drive other people's car occasionally. I'm a broke college kid and cannot afford a car yet and probably wont have one for another year or two. How the hell am I supposed to transport a gun if I don't have a car unless I get a Class A LTC with no restrictions? Would this help my case out for why I need A Class A No restrictions? If I did end up with a license with restrictions for Sport and Target Practice, could I walk down the street with the gun in a case if it was unloaded, locked, and stored properly? I walk practically everywhere, sometimes through pretty rough areas and very often late at night. Not sure if that would help out my situation either, but let me know.

A final group of questions: I've seen that Medford is listed as a "red" city, meaning it is hard to obtain a class A LTC with no restrictions. I've also read on this forum that the person who issues licenses in Medford will not issue a Class A LTC without restrictions to someone when they first apply for one. Is this really true? Has anyone been to obtain a class a LTC without restrictions on their first try in Medford?

Second part of the above question: So say Medford is out of the question and that you cannot get a class a LTC with no restrictions on your first application. I don't want to wait 6 years so if I move to a "Green" city, or one that is known to issue unrestricted class A LTCs, such as Arlington, Burlington, Everett, etc (all of these examples according to this forum), would I be able to obtain a class A LTC with no restrictions easier? How long does one have to live in a city to be able to obtain a class A LTC with no restrictions? If I do move to say, Arlington, will they be less likely to give me a Class A LTC w/no Restrictions because I just recently moved there? I could easily move to Arlington or Everett for like 6 months, obtain a license, and then just move back to Medford afterwards, but would this actually work?

Lastly, I saw on another post on this forum dated in November of 2007 that after 2007, the person in charge of issuing licenses in Medford is retiring and being replaced by "a cooler" guy. Anyone else heard anything about this?

Thank you for reading through that mess and thank you for any feedback you can provide.
 
You might want to ask some of these questions to a P.O. next time one comes into your place of work.First and foremost is take a basic handgun course so you have the certificate in hand when you apply.
 
Anyone think I'd be able to get one by moving to Arlington (Green) or Everett (Green), getting my license there, then moving back to Medford? Is that a good idea? I don't have enough money to buy a lawyers services; I'm about $40,000+ in debt thanks to Umass and I'm about to go to grad school in a year. So I really don't have the type of money to drop on an expensive specialist lawyer, but I also really don't want some bullshit restricted license.

Anyone else who has ideas, feel free to answer any of those questions I posted originally up above. Thanks in advance!
 
Oh and this just occurred to me... If my place of work has been robbed multiple times (which it has, at least 4 times) and I am bringing a valuable computer to work (laptop worth roughly $1000 dollars) wouldn't this part of our gun laws influence the LEO's decision:

(d) Any person residing or having a place of business within the jurisdiction of the licensing authority or any person residing in an area of exclusive federal jurisdiction located within a city or town may submit to such licensing authority or the colonel of state police, an application for a Class A or Class B license to carry firearms, or renewal of the same, which such licensing authority or said colonel may issue if it appears that the applicant is a suitable person to be issued such license, and <b> that the applicant has good reason to fear injury to his person or property, or for any other reason, </b> including the carrying of firearms for use in sport or target practice only, subject to such restrictions expressed or authorized under this section, unless the applicant:

Anyone think so or naw?
 
The services of a good lawyer and an unrestricted LTC are two things that a priceless. Give one of the lawyers on the board a call and find a way to scrape together the cash (it might not be as expensive as you think). Years from now you'll look back and see it was a wise move.
 
Oh and this just occurred to me... If my place of work has been robbed multiple times

1. Under the law, working at a place is not the same as "having a place of business"

2. If you use work as a reason on your application, check in advance to make sure your employer will back you with a letter stating that you have his/her permission to carry on the job. If you can get your employer to write a letter stating that you have permission to be armed on the job, and that the employers is requesting that an unrestricted LTC-A be issued, you may find that it improves your chances.

Two stupid applicant mistakes I have seen:

1. Telling the chief you need an LTC-A/unrestricted because you "take night courses at a college in Boston"

2. Using "I need it for work" when the employer does not know about the request, and would absolutely not issue a letter confirming carry is authorized on the job.
 
Yeah definitely wouldn't say anything about night courses in Boston, funny though heh. I doubt my boss would back me, mainly because he doesn't seem to be the gun friendly type and because he definitely would not put the effort forth to support me in anything. Not to mention that if it makes him more likely to have to deal with the law in general, I doubt he'd be too keen on the idea.

Thanks for the info and if anyone else has anything to add, it would be greatly appreciated. Or if anyone from Medford has any advice, please chime in.
 
The services of a good lawyer and an unrestricted LTC are two things that a priceless. Give one of the lawyers on the board a call and find a way to scrape together the cash (it might not be as expensive as you think). Years from now you'll look back and see it was a wise move.

Any idea on general price range? I mean, is it like a couple hundred or couple thousand? Thousand is out of the question, hundred might be doable if I start pinching the pennies....
 
Yeah definitely wouldn't say anything about night courses in Boston, funny though heh. I doubt my boss would back me, mainly because he doesn't seem to be the gun friendly type and because he definitely would not put the effort forth to support me in anything. Not to mention that if it makes him more likely to have to deal with the law in general, I doubt he'd be too keen on the idea.

In this state... he'd also have concerns about a lawsuit if he knowingly allowed an employee of his to carry a firearm and something went wrong.

Thanks for the info and if anyone else has anything to add, it would be greatly appreciated. Or if anyone from Medford has any advice, please chime in.
 
I'm beginning to realize how much attempting to get a normal license sucks...

My boss obviously doesn't care if I get capped while I'm getting robbed and doesn't want to deal with the legal problems that could come up if I ended up carrying a firearm on the job...

So because he doesn't give a shit about my life and won't write me a letter expressing that my place of work gives me a legitimate reason to fear for my life, that means that I can't get a license? Talk about a ridiculous law.

Does anyone have any ideas that may help me obtain a Class A LTC w/no restrictions other than getting a lawyer? Moving sounds the best to me right now, which is a bit extreme... heh
 
I'm beginning to realize how much attempting to get a normal license sucks...

My boss obviously doesn't care if I get capped while I'm getting robbed and doesn't want to deal with the legal problems that could come up if I ended up carrying a firearm on the job...

So because he doesn't give a shit about my life and won't write me a letter expressing that my place of work gives me a legitimate reason to fear for my life, that means that I can't get a license? Talk about a ridiculous law.

Does anyone have any ideas that may help me obtain a Class A LTC w/no restrictions other than getting a lawyer? Moving sounds the best to me right now, which is a bit extreme... heh

Which would be more expensive hiring a lawyer, or moving (twice)?
 
This may sound silly to you but why not take a course in self defense?
I'm trained in martial arts (Brazilian Jujitsu) and spend considerable time
on weapon retention, disarming bad guys or defending myself against just
about any type of attack. And I'm 51 years young. At least if you're trained
by a professional, you might have a chance to thwart an attack.
Using my firearm is always a last resort and I'm in a difficult business like you.
 
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To be blunt, I've heard that sometimes people are discriminated against based on their gender, race, appearance, etc, so I was wondering if the fact that I look like a metalhead (long hair, goatee, lotsa camoflague clothing, death metal t-shirts) is going to negatively effect the outcome of my application for a Class A LTC without restrictions? I really don't want to end up with a Class A LTC with restrictions and have to wait 5-6 more years for the upgrade. Obviously, I want what most people want: A class A LTC with no restrictions. I'm not going to go to the police station when I apply dressed up like a hoodlum obviously, but you can tell I'm a metalhead regardless of how I am currently dressed.

If the chief is on the fence, absolutely...
 
Which would be more expensive hiring a lawyer, or moving (twice)?

Probably hiring a lawyer. If im paying rent living somewhere now, moving and paying the same rent in another town and being able to get a license that way isn't going to really cost me anything.

If I hire a lawyer... that's automatically what... hundreds, thousands of dollars? And not a guarantee, though neither is trying to get a license in another town...
 
This may sound silly to you but why not take a course in self defense?
I'm trained in martial arts (Brazilian Jujitsu) and spend considerable time
on weapon retention, disarming bad guys or defending myself against just
about any type of attack. And I'm 51 years young. At least if you're trained
by a professional, you might have a chance to thwart an attack.

I don't have time to do self defense, nor the will, but thanks for the suggestion. One of the main reasons I want the Class A LTC with no restrictions is that I want a gun...
 
Tell the Chief of Police that you chat here as "deathmetalcore", that will help. He'll know you're a worthy candidate to join our ranks.
 
Calm down, buddy. It's a genre of music. Just because someone listens to a certain type of music doesn't mean you have to stereotype them. I'm looking for constructive advice, not a bunch of BS.

Gotta love how people just assume you're not as good as them because of your musical taste.


Tell the Chief of Police that you chat here as "deathmetalcore", that will help. He'll know you're a worthy candidate to join our ranks.
 
As I just experienced, A lawyer helping with your Application when you have a spotless record will not guarantee an Un-restricted license. Also if you moved to a "green" town, were permitted an un-restricted license, when you moved back to Medford it could be neutered with a Restriction when you move into town or renew.

You have 2 choices, move, or accept the restriction due to the fact that your town, like mine stinks...
 

Based on that story, looks like it's time to move from Medford to one of the surrounding green cities. That is ridiculous that he hasn't given out one Class A ALP license in 13 years. Everett, here I come.

Anyone happen to have any experience dealing with getting a permit in Everett? I saw someone list it as green so I'm assuming it's easy, but I'd like some anecdotal evidence if anyone from Everett can provide it.
 
...Also if you moved to a "green" town, were permitted an un-restricted license, when you moved back to Medford it could be neutered with a Restriction when you move into town or renew.
Is this part true? It's been my understanding that moving into a town/city requires one to notify the appropriate authorities, including the local chief, but that your license does not get reissued and the local chief cannot add restrictions until you renew. True?
 
To be blunt, I've heard that sometimes people are discriminated against based on their gender, race, appearance, etc, so I was wondering if the fact that I look like a metalhead (long hair, goatee, lotsa camoflague clothing, death metal t-shirts) is going to negatively effect the outcome of my application for a Class A LTC without restrictions?

Licensing officers are people. People make judgments about others based on their appearance.

When you do go for your interview, I strongly suggest that you do not dress as described above. Make sure you are well-groomed. At the very least, wear business casual (e.g., clean, conservative button-down shirt, khaki pants, dress shoes) or if possible a suit.
 
Licensing officers are people. People make judgments about others based on their appearance.

When you do go for your interview, I strongly suggest that you do not dress as described above. Make sure you are well-groomed. At the very least, wear business casual (e.g., clean, conservative button-down shirt, khaki pants, dress shoes) or if possible a suit.

And, if you are candid with yourself, your form of appearance is intended to make some form of "statement," and it is the statement that folks respond to. Not only is there nothing insidious about this, it is, in fact, exactly what you intend by making the "statement."
 
Having held LTC's continually in several towns in this state, including Meffa, for over 50 years and having helped friends and family with LTC's over the years, I am convinced that a well written letter to the chief is more effective than anything else. Just my humble opinion. Jack.
 
They probably don't know me by name and we aren't close by any stretch, but they would recognize me

I was wondering if the fact that I look like a metalhead (long hair, goatee, lotsa camoflague clothing, death metal t-shirts) is going to negatively effect the outcome of my application for a Class A LTC without restrictions?
First off, welcome to NES.

If your chief doesn't believe that all citizens have the right to carry, then your appearance can only work against you - he'll likely judge you based on a lot of things, including your looks.

You mention below not wanting to spend a ton of money - a haircut, some neat clothes, and removing any piercings don't cost too much, AND they're completely reversible! You can grow your hair back out fairly quickly, etc. What you have to ask youself is "How bad do I want my Second Amendment right, and what am I willing to do to secure it?".
Anyone think I'd be able to get one by moving to Arlington (Green) or Everett (Green), getting my license there, then moving back to Medford? Is that a good idea? I don't have enough money to buy a lawyers services; I'm about $40,000+ in debt thanks to Umass and I'm about to go to grad school in a year. So I really don't have the type of money to drop on an expensive specialist lawyer, but I also really don't want some bullshit restricted license.
That would work; but it has to be a REAL move - you need to RESIDE in your new town. Bills, driver's license, COA with the USPS, etc. And I repeat my earlier question: what are you willing to do to get that LTC-A/ALP? Isn't a little money worth it?
If I hire a lawyer... that's automatically what... hundreds, thousands of dollars? And not a guarantee, though neither is trying to get a license in another town...
That's automatically a question that you have to ASK THE LAWYER... I've seen this question asked dozens of times over the last almost three years, and the answer is always the same: CALL A LAWYER AND ASK!! He won't bite (well, most won't. [wink]) and remember - Lawyers are in business to make money! They can't do that without clients. Ergo, they'll be willing to talk money up front. At least hourly rates, anyway! IIRC, there's at least one lawyer who advertises in the Outdoor Message (the newsletter that you get from GOAL) that he gives a free initial consultation to GOAL members. THAT's certainly worth the $30 cost to join! And yes, that lawyer is on NES.

Anyway... this discussion has been enlightening... anyone else got anything constructive to ad?
Go talk to a lawyer - while it will cost money, remember that you're hiring someone to fight FOR you - he (or she) will be on your side because you're hiring them to be!

Join GOAL - they're the only friend you'll have (as a gun owner) on Beacon Hill

Take the class NOW - no need to wait. Good luck in your endeavors.
moving into a town/city requires one to notify the appropriate authorities, including the local chief, but that your license does not get reissued and the local chief cannot add restrictions until you renew. True?
This is correct - your license is good until it expires unless you go and reapply in the new city (because, say, that the CLEO of your new town will give you an ALP).
 
Thanks a ton for all the extra info guys. I was definitely thinking of wearing a suit on my trip down to the station anyway, and I don't have any piercings or tatooos so that won't be a problem. All I have is long hair and a goatee, and I plan on losing the goatee anyway.

In regards to the lawyer, it definitely sounds like a good idea and I'll have to call around to the ones you guys mentioned and check their rates. If its really high, its no problem for me to move (though it will delay the process quite a bit cuz it'll take some time) to another green city.

The written letter sounds like a great idea, Jack, thanks.

Just out of curiosity, if I apply for the LTC in Medford and he tells me I'm going to get a restricted class A, do I have to accept it? As in, can I be like "No thanks." and then move somewhere else (in state) and reapply again? Or would I automatically have to wait 6 years? Thanks again for all the great info to everyone who replied!
 
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