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Red dots
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chris_1001
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Shitty clone (not a real EOtech) holographic on the left.
And a quality emitter (red) dot on the right.
Not much to go on with two random pics. The one on the left has an EoTech type feel to it, so it may be a holographic site, or it may just look like one.
The one on the right is a tube style, may be 1x, may be 3x, in either case it’s most likely a static dot vs holographic.
The one on the right is a tube style, may be 1x, may be 3x, in either case it’s most likely a static dot vs holographic.
ChevyGuy91
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Cheap and cheaper.
peterk123
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Any functional difference though between the two styles? Forget the brands. Pretend they are both reliable. Is one preferred for a handgun and the other for a shotgun/AR?
chris_1001
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Both are good for an AR style rifle.
Neither are good for a pistol.
I’d go with the one on the left for a shotgun
Holographic sights have a better retical for a shotgun, circle + dot.
I prefer a single dot for everything.
Neither are good for a pistol.
I’d go with the one on the left for a shotgun
Holographic sights have a better retical for a shotgun, circle + dot.
I prefer a single dot for everything.
Lokdog
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The 2 main differences that I know of is open emitter and closed emitter. The open emitter is usually smaller but snow or lint can block the emitter from projecting on the glass where as closed emitter can't have foreign objects block the light but are bulkier and heavier
Let's be real here. An AR platform rifle in 5.56 doesn't have enough recoil to 'destroy an optic', not even a shitty Temu-level Chinese airsoft one. That said, the Sightmark likely doesn't shift its zero with temperature changes like a "Real EOTech" does.
chris_1001
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Neither of the above are open emitters.
Lokdog
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I'm not commenting on those 2 I'm speaking generally the differences with red dots
chris_1001
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chris_1001
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Understood, but that was not a question above and let’s not add to the discussion.
peterk123
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Thinking of putting one on my 12 gauge auto for turkey. We have one my wife's new 410 and it's really nice, at least when testing loads.
chris_1001
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Get a Holosun pistol red dot with a circle and a dot redical. Don't over think it, but don't flint.
Neither above are good choices in my opinion
Over time, technology advances and things get easier and much much cheaper to produce - and red dots/optics are no exception. Sure, a CVLife or a Cyelee red dot today isn't going to have the same legendary bomb-proof reputation as an Aimpoint CompM4. Enough youtube 'torture tests' have shown they do survive pretty nasty drops onto hard ground, optic first.
I've got an ACRO p2 on my shotty.
The new vortex shotgun dot might be a good option too.
Viper Shotgun Enclosed Micro Red Dot
Purpose-built for the fast pace of turkey hunting and wingshooting, delivering an ultra-low-profile design and wide field of view for intuitive shooting and superior recoil control.
vortexoptics.com
BroncoAZ
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Open emitter is fine for a pistol because of the small form factor. No need to put one on a rifle unless it’s on an offset mount with a magnified optic, then you’re operator AF.
The Sig Romeo 5 (now Gen II) is awesome for the price. I have half a dozen Aimpoint H-1/T-1/T-2 and a few of the Romeo 5’s of both generations.
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The Sig Romeo 5 (now Gen II) is awesome for the price. I have half a dozen Aimpoint H-1/T-1/T-2 and a few of the Romeo 5’s of both generations.
Sig Sauer ROMEO5 Gen II 1x20mm Red or Green Dot Sight from - $120 (Free S/H)
Refreshed with a bold new look, the next generation of SIG SAUER
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Um, no. The Eotech clone is not an open emitter.
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Ive never had an expensive red dot. They have all survived plenty of 12 gauge recoil without problems...before I went to a scope on the shotgun.
I have 99 dollar (Palmetto sale ) Vortex strikefire's Red/Green dot on my AR's now and love them.
Mount that comes with it, will be too high for a Turkey shotgun though.
Lennypeters
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I call the left one a reflex sight and the right one a tube sight. I have several of each but am mostly using the reflex sights for the lighter weight. I like Burris Fastfire 3's which can be had for ~ $150.
Ah, I stand corrected. Looking at it more closely, you are correct. It is styled to look like an EOTECH, but is an open emitter. EOTECHs are not open emitters.
I don't trust ade for shit. I knew that going into it,but still tried anyways.
But a cheap utg scope bug blaster I bought held up on my G3 clone just fine iirc.
Plus they have a high end one that's respectable now as well. Plus their pro line stuff being built here
This is the answer.The Sig Romeo 5 (now Gen II) is awesome for the price. I have half a dozen Aimpoint H-1/T-1/T-2 and a few of the Romeo 5’s of both generations.
Sig Sauer ROMEO5 Gen II 1x20mm Red or Green Dot Sight from - $120 (Free S/H)
Refreshed with a bold new look, the next generation of SIG SAUER
Best bang for the buck in the industry right now.
Rant on...
I don't have one as new as the CompM4 but have 5 units of the various generations of Aimpoint Comps, one going back as far as 20+ years and they've been the only dot sights to consistently fail out of the probably 2 dozen misc others I have. Two of them I picked up used/cheap because the original owner didn't trust them any more even after going back to Aimpoint for service and still glitching out now and then.
Can't tell you how many times the dot has blinked out in the middle of a firing string and has me twisting the battery cap and banging them on the bench to get the dot back.
I eventually found one big issue is that the boneheads used unplated brass for the positive battery contact and it oxidizes over time, requiring an occasional cleaning/sanding. A dab of dielectric grease after cleaning seems to help.
It's not abuse that kills them, it's time... and probably environment to a degree.
For perspective, an Ultradot was my first dot almost 30 years ago and it's still been 100% reliable.
Have a number of the good old japanese produced Tasco dot's that have never glitched, some on well used spring piston air guns which are notorious for destroying optics.
Maybe they've worked out the issues by now but all I use the Comps for these days is range duty, I'd trust my Pinty's more.
Rant off... lol...
