school me of pre 8-1 gun evil features

[Lxpony]

Does GOAL agree with the interpretations offered in this thread?

Do any responsible 2nd Amendment legal analysts/activists?

Can someone post a link to their opinions on the topic?

Asking GOAL for guidance is like following the FDA for caloric daily intake standards

 

[VTski4x4]

Does GOAL agree with the interpretations offered in this thread?

Do any responsible 2nd Amendment legal analysts/activists?

Can someone post a link to their opinions on the topic?

If you want to follow GOAL's interpretation of anything - just think worst case scenario. All your guns are illegal and you are a felon. Go turn them in to PD and accept your fate - or live like an outlaw.

 

[Dennis in MA]

@Broc Tuah’s first name is Jake???? Whoever would think that???




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If you rub teh two orbs while firing, it shoots farther. In case you were wondering.

 

[Toast]

Dude, I tried that. Ordered the wrong dildo, it was too soft I threw it away, I should have donated it to the "get out of jail Reptile fund".

Two weeks later I get a letter in the mail asking if I was happy with the purchase of their dildo. First time ever an Amazon customer does that and they did it with a dildo.

PSA: I later learned, from a NES member that works for Amazon, that dildos can be returned.

Well, that's the problem with ordering things sight-unseen. Sometimes they're not exactly as described and bad things can happen. Case in point, where a woman's butt appliance wasn't really "100% silicone" and instead had a metal core:

Woman left with horrific injuries after sex toy ‘dragged through body’ during nightmare MRI scan

A young woman has reportedly been left with horrific injuries after leaving a sex toy inserted during an MRI scan.

nypost.com

 

[Broc Tuah]

If you rub teh two orbs while firing, it shoots farther. In case you were wondering.

They are probably a very stable bipod. Would be great for F Class.

Compliments @chris_1001 karate chop hold.

 

[DJBrad]

Well, that's the problem with ordering things sight-unseen. Sometimes they're not exactly as described and bad things can happen. Case in point, where a woman's butt appliance wasn't really "100% silicone" and instead had a metal core:

Woman left with horrific injuries after sex toy ‘dragged through body’ during nightmare MRI scan

A young woman has reportedly been left with horrific injuries after leaving a sex toy inserted during an MRI scan.

nypost.com

She failed the pre-MRI checklist

 

[akma]

Is an AR pistol then legal?

 

[Rick O'Shea]

Did you possess it on Aug 1st?

 

[Warm_Garand]

I will give you credit for a decent attempt at trolling.

Not trolling in the slightest.

Presumably the answer to each of the questions I asked is "NO". Which means that no one with any actual legal knowledge or experience perceives reality quite as it is framed by the NES Brain Trust. Right?

This place is (more and more lately) a shit sandwich of delusional groupthink. and an echo chamber of greasy passive-aggressive pot-smoking retards who think that "you probably won't ever get caught" is exactly the same as "It's legal".

B*tch, please.

When someone posts on this site asking "what the law is", maybe NES should try a little harder not to pretend that the MA legislature didn't f*ck them in the ass and wipe its dick on your drapes--while the 2A community in MA gathered in a fearsome outraged unified pipe-hitting group of 150 on the bald empty common around the rotunda holding signs and talking to each other at length with no one else in earshot. If you want to break the law because you believe that it is unconstitutional horse sh*t , good for you. I happen to believe that you are right. But if you get jammed up at a traffic stop or after an argument with your girlfriend (or boyfriend), oh well, those are the breaks. But understand that you actually haven't accomplished anything with your "high-minded disobedience", and rolling with an expired license plate and an unpinned stock with an A2 flash hider might not be the devastating blow for freedom you quite imagine it to be.

So that's my 2 cents.

You guys have a great day.

 

[Dennis in MA]

So if I owned a circa-2017 fixed-mag AR pistol, then it no longer needs to be fixed mag, correct???

This is getting stupid. And I think I'll wait for the SCOTUS to rule on this and make it just an all-done type of thing. I long for a moment when my high-priced, bought for more because it was in MA guns are worth half or less of what their current value is.

 

[Devils Paintbrush]

Even if you were serious ;-) a mass judge would surely rule that the whole thing needed to be over the border not even 1/1000 of an inch of it in NH. T
heir decision tree always leads to "It is a crime" when it comes to guns.

Unfortunately, the .gov's shock troops easiest answer that keeps them out of trouble is "NO".

That decision tree is what guarantees that those who make the decisions are the worst of the worst.

 

[MaroonedinMA]

If they were in the state legally on 8/1, you can have a vibrating dildo flash hider if that's your thing.
The only thing not exempted are standard capacity mags - those need to be pre-94 and have been in the state before the emergency preamble was signed.

Link?

 

[P51MA]

Is an AR pistol then legal?

If you have a lower that was lawfully possessed on 8/1 but was NOT a rifle (ie an unbuilt lower reciever), then I don't see why not?

IIRC the weight limit for pistols is gone now. Just remember that you cannot turn a rifle into a pistol.

AFAIK AR pistols were never totally banned, the problem was that you basically needed to build them out of polymer and carbon fiber to make the 50oz weight limit, or maybe have a fixed mag? Neither of those are very appealing.

 

[paul73]

If you have a lower that was lawfully possessed on 8/1 but was NOT a rifle (ie an unbuilt lower reciever), then I don't see why not?

IIRC the weight limit for pistols is gone now. Just remember that you cannot turn a rifle into a pistol.

AFAIK AR pistols were never totally banned, the problem was that you basically needed to build them out of polymer and carbon fiber to make the 50oz weight limit.

how about to stop asking silly questions and on any question 'is it legal in MA' to assume for now that the only answer is 'nobody knows, so it is presumed to be - no, it is not'.
and with that answer in mind - go and figure out for yourself, what you do want to do with it.

and same goes with all new web forms like one from primary arms saying - dude, are you legally legal to think that what you are about to do is indeed legal?
or even better - are you sure if your intentions are legal to be legal?

f#ck it all and this state with it.

 

[P51MA]

go and figure out for yourself, what you do want to do with it.

Thats why people post here. I wouldn't even have an account on NES if it wasn't for the convoluted, nonsensical laws of MA. I would just go post on ARFCOM or something.

 

[paul73]

Thats why people post here. I wouldn't even have an account on NES if it wasn't for the convoluted, nonsensical laws of MA. I would just go post on ARFCOM or something.

the current situation has no logical explanation, nor resolutions.
potentially, all of us are now felons. that`s what the meaning of - "so, now what?" question was.

most of us have ar pistols and sbrs. "so, now what?" - again.

 

[paul73]

ok, if you are really scared - to avoid a potential charge of constructive possession, make sure count of your 16"+ uppers matches count of your lowers.

i really doubt the progressive police force and DAs will give 2 f#cks about it all if it will come to time of pressing any charges, but, if it may make anyone feel better about it all - that is the idea.

 

[Steve600]

A few years ago I bought a pre ‘94 because I thought I wouldn’t be able to own one loaded with evil features as the new laws were being passed. Now I find out I threw my money away for nothing….. fu*ked again.

 

[JonathonEmergency]

A few years ago I bought a pre ‘94 because I thought I wouldn’t be able to own one loaded with evil features as the new laws were being passed. Now I find out I threw my money away for nothing….. fu*ked again.

That’s why you don’t play the game.

 

[pastera]

That’s why you don’t play the game.

that's why you don't play THIER game.

 

[slipknot]

Here is a thought, so tell me if and when then this crap law the commies stuck us with gets repealed in 22 months at the ballot box, does that mean we go back to needing to pin and weld, or not have flash hiders and evil features etc. ?
Just thinking out loud
I'm about done with mental gymnastics

 

[Agnotology]

She failed the pre-MRI checklist

but is the plug pre 8-1?

 

[jjman15]

Here is a thought, so tell me if and when then this crap law the commies stuck us with gets repealed in 22 months at the ballot box, does that mean we go back to needing to pin and weld, or not have flash hiders and evil features etc. ?
Just thinking out loud
I'm about done with mental gymnastics

Great point

 

[Tartakovsky]

Why is every thread on this subject cancer?

 

[Rick O'Shea]

Why is every thread on this subject cancer?

Ass Cancer!

 

[Tartakovsky]

I’m not in MA anymore so haven’t been following this very closely, so;

Pre Sept 94 is no longer a thing. All lawfully owned semi auto rifles in MA on 8/1 need to meet the two feature test and cannot have scary “assault weapon” features.

No longer are there exempt “pre 9/94” semi auto rifles that have pistol grips and detachable magazines and also can have folding/collapsible stocks, flash hiders, threaded barrels capable of accepting flash hider, silencer, etc, bayonet lugs, etc.

Any copies/clones of enumerated weapons “copies of those banned by name, such as the Colt AR-15, AK, Steyr AUG, etc) need to have been manufactured and lawfully possessed in MA before the 7/16 enforcement notice.

Am I missing anything?

 

[bigred460]

I’m not in MA anymore so haven’t been following this very closely, so;

Pre Sept 94 is no longer a thing. All lawfully owned semi auto rifles in MA on 8/1 need to meet the two feature test and cannot have scary “assault weapon” features.

No longer are there exempt “pre 9/94” semi auto rifles that have pistol grips and detachable magazines and also can have folding/collapsible stocks, flash hiders, threaded barrels capable of accepting flash hider, silencer, etc, bayonet lugs, etc.

Any copies/clones of enumerated weapons “copies of those banned by name, such as the Colt AR-15, AK, Steyr AUG, etc) need to have been manufactured and lawfully possessed in MA before the 7/16 enforcement notice.

Am I missing anything?

I'm in the keep it simple camp.
Everything here in Mass on 8/1 is exempt.

 

[wcorey]

I’m not in MA anymore so haven’t been following this very closely, so;

Pre Sept 94 is no longer a thing. All lawfully owned semi auto rifles in MA on 8/1 need to meet the two feature test and cannot have scary “assault weapon” features.

No longer are there exempt “pre 9/94” semi auto rifles that have pistol grips and detachable magazines and also can have folding/collapsible stocks, flash hiders, threaded barrels capable of accepting flash hider, silencer, etc, bayonet lugs, etc.

8/1 is the new pre '94...

 

[wcorey]

Any copies/clones of enumerated weapons “copies of those banned by name, such as the Colt AR-15, AK, Steyr AUG, etc) need to have been manufactured and lawfully possessed in MA before the 7/16 enforcement notice.

That would be the 'extreme case' GOAL interpretation that many other respected opinions here consider to be majorly flawed due to conflicting and/or nonsensical language in Ch135 as well as 7/16 never having been law to begin with.

 

[Palladin]

If it has a trigger, you're f*cked