Supreme Court - NYSRPA v. Bruen - Megathread

[doxdsgn]

If this case was about gunz CA9 might care.

The ruling is pretty well written, lays out how Bruen/2A applies and how HI could not/will not find any historically analogous laws banning what is basically a pocket knife. HI tried to baffle the court with BS and the three judge panel basically called BS on it.

 

[Parker Schreiber]

Why would en banc be denied? CA9 is a traditionally vehemently anti-2A circuit with a big history of taking pro-2A cases and reversing them.

Partly because this was a unanimous decision, and partly because the 9th Circuit knows it's going to have to take on higher profile cases.

 

[MaverickNH]

Here is a ruling from the 9th Circuit ruling Hawaii's ban on butterfly knives is unconstitutional under the 2A.

https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2023/08/07/20-15948.pdf

But Thowing Stars are still out. Dang…

 

[Picton]

But Thowing Stars are still out. Dang…

Guy, from Street Fighter, disapproves.

 

[doxdsgn]

“Thus, the court finds that the individual plaintiffs have shown a likelihood of success on the merits on the question of whether the Second Amendment applies to 18- to 20-year-olds,” Brimmer wrote in a 44-page ruling issuing a preliminary injunction.

Federal judge temporarily blocks Colorado's new law raising the age to purchase all guns to 21

 

[CatSnoutSoup]

Anti Bruen response law on prohibited places restrained as likely unconstitutional in Hawaii.

 

[MAJoe]

Bruen cited here:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/09/politics/appeals-court-firearms-illegal-drug-users/index.html

A federal appeals court on Wednesday struck down a decades-old law barring users of illegal drugs from possessing firearms

Only applies to those in the 5th circuit.

 

[KBCraig]

Bruen cited here:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/09/politics/appeals-court-firearms-illegal-drug-users/index.html

Only applies to those in the 5th circuit.

Bruen keeps delivering.

 

[Picton]

Bruen keeps delivering.

And it will, for decades ahead.

 

[pastera]

Bruen keeps delivering.

But,but,but what about all of the states that are passing anti-bruen laws?
Doesn't that mean Bruen hurt us
We should compromise and hide in the closet...

 

[Picton]

But,but,but what about all of the states that are passing anti-bruen laws?
Doesn't that mean Bruen hurt us
We should compromise and hide in the closet...

Is that shit in your pants, or are you just happy to see Rep Day?

 

[doxdsgn]

Only applies to those in the 5th circuit.

And by special exception, Hunter Biden.

 

[nstassel]

Today a judge in Lowell dismissed a possession of a firearm charge for a NH resident who had no license based on Bruen.

 

[pastera]

Today a judge in Lowell dismissed a possession of a firearm charge for a NH ll resident who had no license based on Bruen.

WOW - everyone here needs to read that Opinion.
Anyone know where I can download a searchable version? Searching on MassCourts.org doesn't bring it up when searching by name or 2211CR2835

 

[Picton]

Today a judge in Lowell dismissed a possession of a firearm charge for a NH ll resident who had no license based on Bruen.

Whoah.

That's huge.

 

[pastera]

Today a judge in Lowell dismissed a possession of a firearm charge for a NH ll resident who had no license based on Bruen.

Please tell me this was your case...

If so then you will need a new tag "NES GOD" over your member tagline

 

[Bonesinium]

Today a judge in Lowell dismissed a possession of a firearm charge for a NH ll resident who had no license based on Bruen.

I and many here have been making that argument for years and it’s about time a judge finally also came to that logical conclusion. Well done in pointing out both that non-residents are NOT treated the same when it comes to an LTC in MA and the succinct example of the Pheasant Tree Mall.

 

[nstassel]

Please tell me this was your case...

If so then you will need a new tag "NES GOD" over your member tagline

No it wasn't. I have a similar motion pending in other cases.

 

[appraiser]

holy mother of God, did Hell just freeze over

 

[appraiser]

I and many here have been making that argument for years and it’s about time a judge finally also came to that logical conclusion. Well done in pointing out both that non-residents are NOT treated the same when it comes to an LTC in MA and the succinct example of the Pheasant Tree Mall.

the Mall analogy is not true is it? I didn't think there was any retail space that encroached into MA, and wasn't one corner of the mall lopped off to prevent MA from trying to collect sales tax on all purchases made on the property?

 

[milktree]

WOW - everyone here needs to read that Opinion.
Anyone know where I can download a searchable version? Searching on MassCourts.org doesn't bring it up when searching by name or 2211CR2835

I used one of the on-line OCR tools, so I can't vouch for it's 100% accuracy. But it's probably well within "good enough"

 

[Bonesinium]

the Mall analogy is not true is it? I didn't think there was any retail space that encroached into MA, and wasn't one corner of the mall lopped off to prevent MA from trying to collect sales tax on all purchases made on the property?

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Well then, maybe you’re right. In any case, clearly at least part of the parking lot is in MA and the point remains the same.

 

[Matt_SERE]

Well then, maybe you’re right. In any case, clearly at least part of the parking lot is in MA and the point remains the same.

Yes, it has been where the parking spaces are.

 

[42!]

Today a judge in Lowell dismissed a possession of a firearm charge for a NH resident who had no license based on Bruen.

Help out us non-lawyers from NH, what weight does a MA District Court carry? Is it something that is binding across MA, or is it just something that can be brought up and hopefully considered? In the real world, does this get me any protection from prosecution, or even as a defence?

 

[pdm]

Help out us non-lawyers from NH, what weight does a MA District Court carry? Is it something that is binding across MA, or is it just something that can be brought up and hopefully considered? In the real world, does this get me any protection from prosecution, or even as a defence?

Precedent in the district, persuasive outside the district, worthless out of the state. (not legal advice, I graduated with the degree, but never practiced)

 

[KBCraig]

Well then, maybe you’re right. In any case, clearly at least part of the parking lot is in MA and the point remains the same.

I've only been to the Pheasant Lane Mall once. I parked in NH, but I made sure to leave via the south (J.C. Penney) door and carry in MA without a license.

It was nice that there was a line cut in the pavement marking the border.

 

[Darksideblues42]

Precedent in the district, persuasive outside the district, worthless out of the state. (not legal advice, I graduated with the degree, but never practiced)

But it is a first step on the path. It is the first stone turned over, the first field plowed where the seeds of freedom will be planted. Maybe not in our lifetimes, but in the future.

 

[Joeldiaz]

But it is a first step on the path. It is the first stone turned over, the first field plowed where the seeds of freedom will be planted. Maybe not in our lifetimes, but in the future.

Unless a future anti-2A SCOTUS overrules Bruen. Then it’s back to the drawing board.

 

[CatSnoutSoup]

Unless a future anti-2A SCOTUS overrules Bruen. Then it’s back to the drawing board.

 

[Darksideblues42]

Unless a future anti-2A SCOTUS overrules Bruen. Then it’s back to the drawing board.

I mean this in the nicest possible way, but I hope you suffer a tragic zipper malfunction. I hope you forget the proper order of "Shake, Tuck, Zip" and Shake, Zip, then try to Tuck