Supreme Court - NYSRPA v. Bruen - Megathread

[Picton]

It's entertaining that the NRA is still their "boogeyman" when FPC and GOA are really the ones slinging the big dick.

This is why the NRA is still worth joining. They ain't perfect, but they're the ones taking all the incoming fire.

 

[Nightshift]

I'll bet he shit himself when he found out about the decision.

And go...

He gets his diaper changed every other hour……

 

[BigGreen2000]

I'll bet he shit himself when he found out about the decision.

And go...

Biden doesn’t need any excuse to poop his pants!

 

[general disorder]

I don't think Brandon even understands the decision. He's just told to go out and say some words which he'll just mumble through. Oh yeah and not crap himself.

 

[xtry51]

Sotomayor's dissent is a train wreck, lol.

 

[xtry51]

This ruling seems to clearly defend FRTs as well. The majority decision is a two part test.

Unfortunately this is another lost opportunity. They vouod have struck 34 entirely here but saying, due to Bruen not only is this ATF rule unconstitutional, but so is the foundational law on which it was based as there was no such historical equivalent at the time of ratification.

SCOTUS is just letting the ATF and government at large continue to destroy people's lives because they won't make a f***ing real decision to strike all the laws and actually protect people.

They didn't even revoke immunity here to open the ATF agents directly and individually to being sued by those whose property they stole and rights they violated.

This tiny bite ruling shit needs to stop because for every one decision like this anti-gunners are prosecuting THOUSANDS of people.

 

[milktree]

This ruling seems to clearly defend FRTs as well. The majority decision is a two part test.

Unfortunately this is another lost opportunity. They vouod have struck 34 entirely here but saying, due to Bruen not only is this ATF rule unconstitutional, but so is the foundational law on which it was based as there was no such historical equivalent at the time of ratification.

Striking down NFA34 isn't going to happen.

However, they could easily have struck down the Hughes amendment.

 

[42!]

This ruling seems to clearly defend FRTs as well. The majority decision is a two part test.

Unfortunately this is another lost opportunity. They vouod have struck 34 entirely here but saying, due to Bruen not only is this ATF rule unconstitutional, but so is the foundational law on which it was based as there was no such historical equivalent at the time of ratification.

SCOTUS is just letting the ATF and government at large continue to destroy people's lives because they won't make a f***ing real decision to strike all the laws and actually protect people.

They didn't even revoke immunity here to open the ATF agents directly and individually to being sued by those whose property they stole and rights they violated.

This tiny bite ruling shit needs to stop because for every one decision like this anti-gunners are prosecuting THOUSANDS of people.

Come on, you know better than this.

The constitutionality of banning bump stocks wasn't before the court, this was never a 2a case, and it will have no affect on FRTs.
The issue before the court was the process by which the definition of machine gun was changed. Since MG was defined in the law, it can only be changed by changing the law, which the ATF can't do. It's been left wide open that states can ban bump stocks and a bill banning bump stocks can, and likely will, be brought to Congress.

We need to live in reality so we can prepare for the court battle that will come. There has yet to be a ruling on the constitutionality of bump stocks. Get your donations into FPC and GOA, the fight is just beginning.

 

[pastera]

This ruling seems to clearly defend FRTs as well. The majority decision is a two part test.

Unfortunately this is another lost opportunity. They vouod have struck 34 entirely here but saying, due to Bruen not only is this ATF rule unconstitutional, but so is the foundational law on which it was based as there was no such historical equivalent at the time of ratification.

SCOTUS is just letting the ATF and government at large continue to destroy people's lives because they won't make a f***ing real decision to strike all the laws and actually protect people.

They didn't even revoke immunity here to open the ATF agents directly and individually to being sued by those whose property they stole and rights they violated.

This tiny bite ruling shit needs to stop because for every one decision like this anti-gunners are prosecuting THOUSANDS of people.

SCOTUS only answers actual cases and controversies before it, period.
When arguing you have limited word counts and time during colloquy.
Therfore the question presented to the court must necessarily be very narrow and clear.
Broad, sweeping attacks lead to regret, loss and further tyranny while other cases make it through the system to fix the damage from a single overly broad, bad case

 

[pastera]

Striking down NFA34 isn't going to happen.

However, they could easily have struck down the Hughes amendment.

That question wasn't before them.

 

[pastera]

Striking down NFA34 isn't going to happen.

However, they could easily have struck down the Hughes amendment.

If congress adds firing rate accelerators to the NFA that would have a chance of overturning Hughes.
Or we could just as easily get control and just kill Hughes and the NFA (you do Hughes first to lock in some level of win)

 

[sbhaven]

Striking down NFA34 isn't going to happen.

However, they could easily have struck down the Hughes amendment.

No they likely wouldn't. Generally SCOTUS addresses the question before the court that was submitted in the granted petition for writ of certiorari.

The question before the court in Garland v. Cargill was the following:

The question presented is as follows:
Whether a bump stock device is a “machinegun” as defined in 26 U.S.C. 5845(b) because it is designed and intended for use in converting a rifle into a machinegun, i.e., into a weapon that fires “automatically more than one shot * * * by a single function of the trigger.”

 

[T-Unit]

If congress adds firing rate accelerators to the NFA that would have a chance of overturning Hughes.
Or we could just as easily get control and just kill Hughes and the NFA (you do Hughes first to lock in some level of win)

Better off getting Congress to classify bump stocks as MG's, but in the same law have Hughes repealed.

And ya know, maybe remove suppressors and short barrel guns off the NFA while at it.

That would take a Republican party that isn't full of and run by Congressional faggots, so I don't expect it to happen.