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Supreme Court - NYSRPA v. Bruen - Megathread
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An 18 year old is only considered an adult when it is convenient for the state. Alcohol, tobacco, and firearms all are restricted to the under 21 set.
Which "federal law" is this? Has anyone ever been subject to this law? If so, who and when? How is it enacted? Who applies this law and how?
It was not always this way.
But only one of the three is a Right, but yes it should be 18 for all firearms.
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18 U.S. Code § 241 - Conspiracy against rights, enacted in 1948.
Like any other Federal Criminal Statute, it gets prosecuted by the Justice Department and applied at trial. There have been multiple cases and convictions, such as those analyzed here:
Being 18 is convenient for govt in order to collect taxes, draft for the military, and charge crimes as adults for that sweet sweet slave prison labor.
whatluck
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Yet they push for voting for 16- year olds
From "The Patriot":
How would you propose they enact this in current situations?18 U.S. Code § 241 - Conspiracy against rights, enacted in 1948.
Like any other Federal Criminal Statute, it gets prosecuted by the Justice Department and applied at trial. There have been multiple cases and convictions, such as those analyzed here:
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First, you'd have to get a court ruling in a civil case establishing that right begins at 18. So far, I know of no such ruling even at the State level. The recent 9th Circuit case of Jones v. Bonta came closest, but even if that case doesn't get reversed en banc, the decision explicitly states, "California’s handgun ban is not at issue."
Next, you'd need to get the Justice Department to bring criminal charges. Ain't gonna happen under this Administration, and I doubt it'll ever happen.
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If it was a 16 year old who was living on their own I would have the slightest problem with them voting. At the end of the day there is no good age for voting. 18/21 are the catchalls that our society has cooked up as reasonable ages for things for reasons.
We all know plenty of 16 year olds who are rock stars. And we all know plenty of 50 year olds we can't believe aren't in jail or are still alive. Age more times that we'd like to admit is just a number.
I was voting when I was 18 and I was certified retarded when I was 18.
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I’m rereading The Thin Man. Set in the 30’s. Rich mom considers her 20yo daughter and 18yo son as minors. Lol
It’s not a modern thought. Funny is less than a decade later 14-17yo’s we’re lying on papers to die for their country.
whatluck
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I want to use RICO against the FBI and FISA courts against treasonous politicians.
True, when I was young the age of majority was 21. In the '70s it was lowered to 18. Now it's piecemeal being raised again.
And aliens, legal or otherwise. Spelled out clearly in the so called Build Back Better bill. Forced automatic driver's license voter registration and leave it to local officials to figure out who's ineligible (cue the lawsuits).
In the '30s they were legally minors but the son could enlist or be drafted at 18.
Skunked again. 25 cases left, including the very pregnant Buren... it's the oldest case still pending by a fair margin.
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I bet that's the first time they ever had to type Ute that many times in a brief. Damn. The Ute Mountain Ute Reservation in Ute Ute-ville.
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According to Dems 18 is too young to own a gun unless there is someone in a far away land they want killed . Then they will throw every implement of death know to man in a kid's lap and point him in their direction.
16 is old enough to vote as long as it for them .
5 is old enough to take gender altering hormones and get body parts cut off.
Any age from birth is ok to f*ck .
16 is old enough to vote as long as it for them .
5 is old enough to take gender altering hormones and get body parts cut off.
Any age from birth is ok to f*ck .
Another day, another pass by Scotus.
They suck and Kavanaugh is a pussy.
They suck and Kavanaugh is a pussy.
So, are more cases coming out tomorrow?
Maybe it would be best for them to release them at 8:00 PM, right after the news is all over.
Maybe it would be best for them to release them at 8:00 PM, right after the news is all over.
There's four time zones in the continental U.S. and the news cycle worldwide is constant.
It really doesn't matter what time of any day they release their decisions.
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I predict both Roe and the 2A case won't be released until the last possible day and then they will all flee DC like the maggots that they are.
Looks like NYC plans to stall if NYSRPA v. Bruen does not go the city's way. The author claims the NYPD has been "admirably stingy" with regard to issuing carry licenses, which are only issued to the rich, politically connected, and friends of the police.
There is also hinting that they might disallow locking firearms in cars when carrying into events and buildings is prohibited.
I gather they're going to erect every barrier possible to carry by the unwashed.
Exclusive: Sources say if Supreme Court overturns New York gun carry law, new rules could take years to implement
https://archive.ph/O6hs5
There is also hinting that they might disallow locking firearms in cars when carrying into events and buildings is prohibited.
I gather they're going to erect every barrier possible to carry by the unwashed.
Exclusive: Sources say if Supreme Court overturns New York gun carry law, new rules could take years to implement
https://archive.ph/O6hs5
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Well that’s a wrap. Not today.
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Whutmeworry
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We’ve never been a nation of laws. People need to understand that. Political will is the only way out. We have to want it more than our adversaries. The Rainbow Jihad was started through a very tiny number of mentally-ill but ruthlessly dedicated people. Now they’re on the verge of reframing the pedophilia debate to justify it, simply by substituting “minor-attracted person” for “pedophile”. The average American who “just wants to live his/her life” still thinks they can just tread lightly around the issue of personal pronouns, etc., and doesn’t realize the other side has NO INTENTION of sharing what’s left of the country with us.
The gun issue is the same, and totally related. It’s all about political will, and our side better develop it like, yesterday.
This is spot on.
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Len is probably correct even thou I wouldn't call Thomas a maggot.
Remember, the Jan. 6 committee went after his white wife for her phone calls in support of Trump.They know the shit will hit the fan if they rule against Roe and NYC so they'll be running for their lives. Nancy sat on the bill for more protection for a month as a warning to them and Schmucky Shumer has threatened them if they issue rulings the left disapproves of.
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CatSnoutSoup
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Oh cool, I get to follow this story in two threads.
"Liberalism needs an enemy to maintain its sacramental dynamism. It can never rest in calm waters, basking in the day of victory; it is essential that at any given moment there should be a new battle to be fought. The good liberal should always be able to say, “We have made progress, but there is still much to do.” This is why the triumph of same-sex marriage actually happened too suddenly and too completely. Something else was needed to animate liberalism, and transgenderism has quickly filled the gap, defining new forces of reaction and thus enabling new iterations and celebrations of the Festival. And if endorsement and approval of self-described “gender identity” becomes a widely shared legal and social norm, a new frontier will be opened, and some new issue will move to the top of the public agenda, something that now seems utterly outlandish and is guaranteed to provoke fresh opposition from the cruel forces of reaction—polygamy, perhaps, or mandatory vegetarianism."
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The Demon in Democracy: Totalitarian Temptations in Free Societiesby ryszard legutko encounter, 200 . . . .
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AHM
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That cunning plan didn't work for the SJC on stun guns...
Maybe SCOTUS is planning on nulling out gun control,
but they have to schedule the ruling
after they get a chance to stock up some weekend.
Because if they kick out the jams,
they want to be ready for the pro-choice home invaders the week after.
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