SW 5906 PPC

Had a DE in 357 and ended up trading it. You need some stout ammo to get the slide to recoil and pick up the next round properly. Take mass off the slide and youre creating a missile during recoil the may end up in your face sooner or later

Thankfully there's lots of room for improvement on this mug.


This forum knows how to take the wind out of my sails faster than a tobasco and vinegar enema.
 
The pc 5906 was a beautiful gun and was modeled after the IPSC 356TSW and chambered in 9mm unlike the 356TSW which was cambered in the S&W 356TSW (9x21.5). However the pc5906 is not the same gun as the 5906PPC. The pc5906 is also collector gun and is also very hard to find for sale.
I guess I failed to get the point across that I agree, the PPC gun is even more special.
 
You will make that Desert Eagle unreliable and useless if you start to mess with the slide mass. That is a gas opperated pistol and there are no custom springs available for it. Because it is gas operated, and has alot of mass in the slide there is greatly reduced recoil and messing with this will change the timing and render the gun useless.

I disagree that it can't be done. Springs can be had in all kinds of free lengths, diameters, and. rates.

I do however agree, that it's a pointless exercise. If you want to hack up a gun and see if you can make it run, start with something easy to get parts for. Like a G17 or P365
 
You say this now but as time goes on, this isn't true anymore. S&W 3rd gens now have a weird, cult-like following and even the most boring models often sell for higher than the $299 or whatever it was specials CDNN ran on 3rd gen LE trade ins. Obviously the cult prefers good condition guns but the "thing" is there. Ive seen it first hand in action.
As a charter member of "The Club", I can attest to the fact that you are pretty much correct. [laugh]

The problem with being a 3rd Gen collector... or a collector of S&W all-metal DA/SA semi-autos generally... is that the vast number of rough, used condition police trade-in guns and re-imports tends to ruin both the value and attractiveness/collectability of the entire species. Who the heck wants to invest in pristine, high-quality, collector-grade examples when the same gun, beat-up as Hell, can be acquired for mere for chump change? Sometimes, it is hard to tell from photos a flawless low-use or factory-new example from one that has been cleaned up a bit or reconditioned. The things are pretty much indestructible.

That said, asking prices keep increasing (for new or decent shape non-LE guns) and I've been more or less priced out of the market at this point. There are a handful of the more rare versions that I still like to own, but the time when it made economic sense to invest in high condition S&W 3rd Gens has come and gone for me.
 
I disagree that it can't be done. Springs can be had in all kinds of free lengths, diameters, and. rates.

I do however agree, that it's a pointless exercise. If you want to hack up a gun and see if you can make it run, start with something easy to get parts for. Like a G17 or P365
The Desert Eagle is not built like most pistols. The slide is gas opperated and uses two springs one on each side of the slide not one in the center like most pistols. Finding a match set of springs to reconfigure the recoil may be a real pain. I also agree you can do almost anything there comes a point where it just isn't practical to destroy a pistol trying.
 
Two other hard to find Performance Center 3rd gens. The 45 CQB and the 45 recon. I had those to at one time. Don't even get me started on PC revolvers that are near impossable to find. Like the SS ported j frame in 356TSW (9x21.5). I also had one of those at one time.
 
As a charter member of "The Club", I can attest to the fact that you are pretty much correct. [laugh]

The problem with being a 3rd Gen collector... or a collector of S&W all-metal DA/SA semi-autos generally... is that the vast number of rough, used condition police trade-in guns and re-imports tends to ruin both the value and attractiveness/collectability of the entire species. Who the heck wants to invest in pristine, high-quality, collector-grade examples when the same gun, beat-up as Hell, can be acquired for mere for chump change? Sometimes, it is hard to tell from photos a flawless low-use or factory-new example from one that has been cleaned up a bit or reconditioned. The things are pretty much indestructible.

That said, asking prices keep increasing (for new or decent shape non-LE guns) and I've been more or less priced out of the market at this point. There are a handful of the more rare versions that I still like to own, but the time when it made economic sense to invest in high condition S&W 3rd Gens has come and gone for me.
The prices on even the beat up guns especially the S&W 4006 (the CHP gun).. even non “tactical” guns is ridiculous.

My biggest regret is not getting a 5906

However, at the time I lived in MA and I needed deep concealment so the 3913 was the way to go for a DA/SA sub compact. I still think today it is also. There is nothing else out there. Except the Sig P239 but that’s been discontinued also.
 
The Desert Eagle is not built like most pistols. The slide is gas opperated and uses two springs one on each side of the slide not one in the center like most pistols. Finding a match set of springs to reconfigure the recoil may be a real pain. I also agree you can do almost anything there comes a point where it just isn't practical to destroy a pistol trying.
I understand that.

What you may not understand is that places like this exist.


You measure the ID, OD, free length, and spring rate of the stock spring and go from there.
 
The prices on even the beat up guns especially the S&W 4006 (the CHP gun).. even non “tactical” guns is ridiculous.

My biggest regret is not getting a 5906

However, at the time I lived in MA and I needed deep concealment so the 3913 was the way to go for a DA/SA sub compact. I still think today it is also. There is nothing else out there. Except the Sig P239 but that’s been discontinued also.
The 3913 was a great gun. I got my CT pistol permit at 21 and promptly went out and bought a 3rd gen 6906 (G19 size) and a Seecamp. I found I never EVER carried the 6906. I was too dumb to know that a good holster and belt were required.

Eventually I sold the 6906 and picked up a "lady smith 3913" for a song. I actually carried that gun occasionally. Though I mostly carried the Seecamp .32
 
You guys must be talking about the DE L6. L5 has no issues that I’m aware of and is a fun, soft shooter in .357. It’s definitely a novelty though, as are most of the stuff we buy if not used for EDC or competition. Separately, my gen 3’s are mint because I don’t shoot them much. Triggers are not great though.
 
I my opinion, the Third Generation stainless over stainless duty guns (5906, 4006, 1006, 4506) are the finest duty guns ever made.
 
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