tell me about galils

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i see that century has started building them and theres a company called elitefirearms out of texas that can custom make them from parts kits (ie permanently attached brake, no bayo lug fixed stock)

why am i reading some sources saying its the most reliable gas system???
 
I think the fact that the Galil is built off the AK design contributes to it's reliability. No small, finely fit pieces to get fouled. Works well even when not cleaned regularly.
 
In my book, Galils are the Uber-AK...The Israelis took a robust and reliable design and built it to a higher standard in my opinion. I had a chance at a pair of them in the 80's, (one of the wouldacouldashoulda's) for $875.00 for the pair if I remember correctly - I passed. [crying] Still, I have much trigger time with them, (friends) - including select fire. They are everything the AK's are and then some. I really loved the 7.62x51 - smooth as butter and the 5.56 was a joy to shoot. I haven't talked to my friend in Ohio is some time, but when last we saw each other, (2000) he had put tens of thousands of rounds through both of his and never mentioned any issues whatsoever.

I'd be suspect about anything Century makes at the same time. I have seen to many examples, (from WASR's to g3's to Uzi's to CETME's) that were shoddily built, inaccurate and nonfunctional. I have seen examples that were "okay" but not enough to convince me to plunk my change down at Century. There are other Galil builders and I've heard good things about O.R.F. - I'd shop around - even make the insane investment into a original, (would look great with your Uzi) [wink]
 
well i found this guy...who can custom build one to our MA AWB specs
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=74316732

I'd shop around - even make the insane investment into a original, (would look great with your Uzi)
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youre evil...plain evil...if i was gonna spend $2k+ on an "original" i'd want to get myself an HK before anything else...its bad enough you had me get an original uzi haha
 
blood hound said:
well i found this guy...who can custom build one to our MA AWB specs
http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=74316732
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Wow. Those look nice. A Galil has been very high on my want list for a long time, but the originals are so expensive. I would consider one of these, but for a little more you could get an original Valmet. The big problem with those is that the mags are so expensive. Decisions decisions...
 
Is this the rife you guys are talking about [wink].SORRY MY BAD THIS IS THE FAL.

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I had a preban Galil ARM (bipod and carry handle model) in 5.56 for about 4 months. I remember having to have the rifle and when I got it the only fun part besides looking at it was the thumb safety. I mean it was extremely reliable and shot lights out but the thing weighs way too much to shoot anywhere but from off the bench. Personally I dont collect guns, I shoot them and that was a collectors rifle.
 
I've wanted a Galil ARM for along time. I emailed Elite Firearms and got the following back from Dave Michener:

"CANT HELP YOU, SORRY

in reply to:

Hello,

I'd like to purchase a Galil ARM in .223. Some questions:

What brand receivers are you using?

I live in Mass. Would you be willing to swap the flash suppressor for a muzzle brake, pin the folding stock perm. open, and shave off any bayo lug in order to comply with our ban here?

Do you have these in stock and what is the price of the rifle with the extra work above?

Thanks,"


I wich I could teleport myself out of this Sh**hole of a state
 
Solution:

Get a NH Dealer to order it and modify it as needed before you take possession of it (or you can take possession - do 4473 in his shop and then leave it with him for the mods needed).

I can't recommend anyone up there to do the work and order it for you, but that is a perfectly legal work-around to this problem.

Just thought of it . . . talk with Adam at InfiniteArms (an NES Dealer in Manchester)!
 
Len i was gonna suggest the same thing...but some of the guns that guy has advertised on GB have no bayo lug and a permanently attached brake on them already...all you have to do is pin the stock!

jon...i wish i had the time and the resources to build one or else believe me i would...its for the same reason i cant get into reloading...i dont have a big enough area for all the equipment i'd need! (i could take over the spare bedroom but i think my parents would definitely kill me after that)
 
JonJ said:
Think about building one?
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I looked into it awhile back... it's not an inexpensive option.

Ohio Rapid Fire has all the necessary parts, so using them as an example (you could always shop around and find better prices, but I don't think there'll be a significant savings).

http://rapidfire.targetweb.net/cgi-...q0&product=Galil&cart_id=6016958.20585*Ap0f-4

Receiver... $350.00

Parts kit (minus barrel and bolt)... $220.00

US manufactured barrel (7.62x39 or 5.56 NATO)... $150.00

Adapter for M-16/AR-15 magazines... $80.00

922r compliance parts... roughly $70.00

On the cheap, there's a complete build kit... $700.00
http://rapidfire.targetweb.net/cgi-...16958.20585*wW3rs4&p_id=02162&xm=on&ppinc=big

Pre-ban mags aren't cheap. I think they run about $35.00 or so.
Taking that into consideration, it would be cheaper in the long run to purchase the mag adapter (especially if you already have a bunch of pre-ban
M-16 mags).

One other problem is that due to the import ban on barrels, is that a lot of the parts kits don't include one.

Add in tooling, finish, etc... $$$$$ = ?

Add in expense if you have to shop any of the labor out (sandblasting, welding, etc).

Add even more $$$ if you want a bipod and carry handle... $80.00

Using rough math... you're looking at spending close to $900.00 - $1,000.00

That's a lot of cash to lay out for a home build... a neutered one at that. [sad]

Then.... you have to put it all together...

http://www.arizonaresponsesystems.com/notes/galilbuild/pagegalilbuild.htm

http://www.gunco.net/forums/showthread.php?t=28610

It's a bit more complicated than a plain-jane AK-47 build (especially if you're using a mis-matched bolt and barrel).
 
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OK here is a question:

Whats the deal with your laws about Rifles that some butt heads in government call assault weapons ?

And NFA weapons ?

Can you have transferable NFA weapons or suppressors ? what about destructive devices ?

Ive only been in the PRC for the last 10 years, Before that I lived in Nevada and owned a few NFA weapons but until I realised what the correct first 3 letters of your state are IE Taxachusetts then that changed my thoughts of moving out there to quite a bit.

Here is an example about the legality of the Galil in California State.

This rifle is not an assault rifle as its not marked Galil on the receiver and to be legal in the PRC it would have to have either a fixed ten round (or less) mag (one you can remove with the use of a tool is not considered detachable) so by law the fixed mag build does not have to be permanent.

Either the fixed mag build or you could run detachable mags with no Pistol Grip and no other so called evil features. like a folding stock or flash hider.



http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=74646576
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Same thing would apply to the FN 50.63 rifle at the link below.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=74576200
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I figured I'd bring this thread back from the dead. I picked up a Golani recently built on one of the newer Caspian receivers and I think I may have found my new favorite gun. It is really easy to take apart and clean however to get the top cover back on I had to go out and buy a rubber mallet to pound it back on and also filed down the rear corner just a tad to help get it on. The trigger is probably around 8lbs but feels a lot better/smoother than my WASR or AES-10B trigger.

Out of the box I was able to hit steel targets at 100 yards. I'm thinking with a halfway decent scope I could probably shoot about as well as one of my ARs. One of the downsides of the gun is the magazines. I was able to get 4 35 rounders however they are expensive. Fortunately they sell an adaptor to use AR-15 mags which I have read works well. If you reload you don't want to shoot any brass case ammo out of it that you plan on loading later as it tends to dent the casings and fling them about 30 feet forward.
 
Congrats on the Golani. I have heard that the Caspian receivers are much better than the ORF produced receivers. I actually purchased a bare receiver from ORF about two years ago to build up a Galil ARM clone. I immediately returned it when I test fitted several bolts and found the locking lugs of the receiver were not machined parallel to one another. The bolt lugs did not contact evenly and would wobble from side to side. Supposedly the receivers did not have adequate heat treatment as well. Century apparently was tired of dealing with the ORF issues and decided to source the receivers elsewhere. I wound up purchasing a mint pre ban IMI Galil.

Let us know how the Golani works out.
 
So far so good. Last weekend I put around 120-140 rounds through it mostly being remington UMC and two boxes of PMC M193. I only ran in to one FTE when my brother was shooting it with the UMC but I wouldn't blame that on the gun it was probably the ammo. Other than that it ran like a top on all of the other rounds. The only two gripes I have about it thus far is the safety on the grip is difficult to engage and the gas piston looks like it was wrapped in glued paper of some sort at a point in it's life but it hasn't affected performance at all. The newer receivers are supposed to be more in spec with the IMI's and also not have the heat treatment problems like the ORF's did. Overall I am quite pleased with my purchase. For anyone else out there looking for one try to buy within the GLN serial number range. I believe you want to avoid the GAL ones as they were part of the recall that happened.
 
I just stumbled accross one locally. It's a Century Arms Galil. Guy wants $550 for it. Does that sound reasonable? Any questions I should ask him to make up my mind on buying?
 
The Century ones are junk. I know of one guy who had to have the dealer send it back to Century THREE times due to problems. He finally sold it.

You are in ME, part of Free America. Look for either the real thing ($3-8K) or one of the better mfrs.

Here's where you can learn some more about them. If this link works for you, it is a search for "Galil" in the title of any thread on FalFiles.com.

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/sear...=1647376&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending

I can tell you that the Galil is a very heavy gun, ~10.5# w/o mag/ammo. Someone (Semi-Auto Sam?) on NES has been trying to sell one in .308 and it looks very nice and is reasonably priced for the real deal.

The real Galil is a nice piece of history. I appreciate it for that reason. My Wife on the other hand actually likes shooting it, whereas she won't go near my ARs . . . she claims they are too noisy! [thinking] Go figure!
 
Thanks for the mention of my Galil,

Its as close to NIB as I have ever owned, about 25 rounds through it still have the 10th anniversary Action Arms box that it came in.

Here is the thread here and below the thread at FALFILES.com.
http://northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=748231#post748231

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=260056&highlight=galil

LenS said:
The Century ones are junk. I know of one guy who had to have the dealer send it back to Century THREE times due to problems. He finally sold it.

You are in ME, part of Free America. Look for either the real thing ($3-8K) or one of the better mfrs.

Here's where you can learn some more about them. If this link works for you, it is a search for "Galil" in the title of any thread on FalFiles.com.

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/sear...=1647376&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending

I can tell you that the Galil is a very heavy gun, ~10.5# w/o mag/ammo. Someone (Semi-Auto Sam?) on NES has been trying to sell one in .308 and it looks very nice and is reasonably priced for the real deal.

The real Galil is a nice piece of history. I appreciate it for that reason. My Wife on the other hand actually likes shooting it, whereas she won't go near my ARs . . . she claims they are too noisy! [thinking] Go figure!
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LenS said:
The Century ones are junk. I know of one guy who had to have the dealer send it back to Century THREE times due to problems. He finally sold it.

You are in ME, part of Free America. Look for either the real thing ($3-8K) or one of the better mfrs.

Here's where you can learn some more about them. If this link works for you, it is a search for "Galil" in the title of any thread on FalFiles.com.

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/sear...=1647376&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending

I can tell you that the Galil is a very heavy gun, ~10.5# w/o mag/ammo. Someone (Semi-Auto Sam?) on NES has been trying to sell one in .308 and it looks very nice and is reasonably priced for the real deal.

The real Galil is a nice piece of history. I appreciate it for that reason. My Wife on the other hand actually likes shooting it, whereas she won't go near my ARs . . . she claims they are too noisy! [thinking] Go figure!
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I wouldn't say the Century ones are junk in all cases but they are definitely hit or miss for people. The one I got seems to have been made out of a good quality kit and so far I have had no problems. From what I read the first run had the receivers made by Ohio Rapid Fire and most had heat treat issues as well as some other problems. The newer ones seem to be more in spec compared to a genuine IMI receiver. You can always have it sent out as well to get worked on as there are a couple smiths out there that specialize in Galils and some even have packages for Golanis.
 

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