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A subject that I've rarely seen mentioned in firearms classes and one that should be drilled into any new shooter's heads.
In that case is it even worth trying to tap out the round or just buy a new barrel? I think I would buy a new one as I couldn't trust that the old one wasn't damaged. I reload all of my own handgun rounds so I am always waiting for that "psst" telltale signature of a squib load.
Squibs, hang fires and misfires are a major part of the NRA basic pistol course. Which classes are you referring to?
Why would it damage the barrel? Tap it out with a dowel and you're good to go.In that case is it even worth trying to tap out the round or just buy a new barrel? I think I would buy a new one as I couldn't trust that the old one wasn't damaged. I reload all of my own handgun rounds so I am always waiting for that "psst" telltale signature of a squib load.
Yup. It's right in the lesson plan. I teach it every time. I might even start using that video.
Why would it damage the barrel? Tap it out with a dowel and you're good to go.
In that case is it even worth trying to tap out the round or just buy a new barrel? I think I would buy a new one as I couldn't trust that the old one wasn't damaged. I reload all of my own handgun rounds so I am always waiting for that "psst" telltale signature of a squib load.
I managed to load some 38's with no powder. I was using a Lee 1000 progressive at a speedy
Squibs, hang fires and misfires are a major part of the NRA basic pistol course. Which classes are you referring to?
In that case is it even worth trying to tap out the round or just buy a new barrel? I think I would buy a new one as I couldn't trust that the old one wasn't damaged. I reload all of my own handgun rounds so I am always waiting for that "psst" telltale signature of a squib load.
Thanks for the videos... Good reminders.
As an aside, when using the rod/hammer to clear, do you push it out of the barrel the rest of the way or back the way it came? I would assume you want to push it forward as to not screw up the rifling. Thanks!
Squibs, hang fires and misfires are a major part of the NRA basic pistol course. Which classes are you referring to?
Had the exact same thing happen to me at MFL with my PM9. I stripped it down and asked the RO if they has something to tap it out with. He took the barrel and cam back with it a short while afterwords and commented that it was a good thing I didn't try to fire another round. I knew better. Anyhow I put another 100 rounds through that day and all was fine. FWIW-The squib came from a box of WWB. I fully trust my PM9. WWB-Not so much.
This is why I weigh every round, never had an issue. I bought a digital scale and can weigh 1000 rounds in less than 30 minutes. I load for some buddies and the 30 min extra is well worth knowing all my rounds are per my load data. Once in a while I will find a round that varies slightly, it goes in a special bag and I fire them with 'extra care', so far so good.
What ever classes the half dozen or so shooters that I've stopped on the range before they blew their guns up have taken. I don't know where they took it or who taught it but they were absolutely clueless about squibs, hangfires and misfires. They all obviously had to have taken one recently because they were all young and new shooters so someone is dropping the ball somewhere and getting paid handsomely to do so. I've knocked out no less than six bullets in the past few years right on Barnstable range over the years.
I'm sure not all instructors are teaching it or not emphasizing it enough and its forgotten in ten minutes by the students.
Your slow motion videos are great learning tools.They happen, know your gun and what it suppose to feel like, stop when it doesn't feel right
[video=vimeo;14393921]http://vimeo.com/14393921[/video]
How the hell do you weigh anything that fast?
Are you weighing the completed cartridge, including powder, primer, case, and bullet, or are you weighing the *powder* that fast?
If you're weighing the completed cartridge, I suspect you're wasting your time, there's enough variation in bullet and case weight a double or short charge can hide pretty easily.
In that case is it even worth trying to tap out the round or just buy a new barrel? I think I would buy a new one as I couldn't trust that the old one wasn't damaged.