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USS The Sullivans Taking on Water
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I was at the launching of the current DDG 51 The Sullivans in Bath a few years ago.
These museum shops DO cost a lot to maintain. It wasn't that long ago the Navy was decommissioning a carrier, can't remember which one, Enterprise maybe? And Portland threw their hat in the ring for host museum city. They didn't get far though because I think the estimated yearly upkeep cost was a few million dollars.
These museum shops DO cost a lot to maintain. It wasn't that long ago the Navy was decommissioning a carrier, can't remember which one, Enterprise maybe? And Portland threw their hat in the ring for host museum city. They didn't get far though because I think the estimated yearly upkeep cost was a few million dollars.
USS Salem reopened for season. In response to questions they stated the hull is thicker, and in good shape.
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commodon
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So if all it took was to send a few divers down to plug holes from the outside, then why did everyone wait until this ship is practically submerged to do this now? Couldn't they have sent them down last month? What am I missing?
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Demoman
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Yea that went well for Anthony he spent a fortune having perini build a pile and timber railway for her then ballast the in side so she wouldn't float so they thought. Surge tide in blizzard of 78 lifted her it sat down in railway on its side and ripped it open and it sank. I broke up and removed the wreck a few years back for another small fortune. For the new owners of the property. They have a built life expectancy after that they are a issue that needs constant attention. If they are an issue they should be repaired or cut up so no has to risk there life trying to save them. I will cut them up free of charge line them up
There’s a lot of discussion on Museum Ship groups. And it should be noted the U.S. has, by far, the most museum ships in the world and navy buffs come from all over the world to visit them.
The hull is 3/8” steel and hasn’t been coated for some years. The submarine USS Cod (Also in fresh water) posted this piece from her ballast tanks, made of the same material. They noted that some areas corrode faster than others.
So it’s a combination of money, unpredictable corrosion, money, lagging maintenance, money, difficulty in detection, and money. The water visibility is really bad.
Divers patch a dozen holes in USS The Sullivans Friday
Work to save the listing historic U.S.S. The Sullivans continued at the Buffalo and Erie County Naval and Military Park Friday.
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They made have just meant type of steel, not sure. It’s a Fletcher Class Destroyer, and one article notes
The shell plating is bolted and welded in strakes, or rows. Plating thickness varied from 3/4″ to 3/8″. This is why destroyers were known as “Tin Cans.”
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The shell plating is bolted and welded in strakes, or rows. Plating thickness varied from 3/4″ to 3/8″. This is why destroyers were known as “Tin Cans.”
Fletcher-class destroyer - Wikipedia
Approaching the Ship - USS KIDD
As you approach the ship and come down the gangway, be certain to examine the KIDD from this vantage point. One of the first things that you will notice are her signal flags flying from the mast. The signal flags are the ship’s call letters: NYKF (from top to bottom). As all radio stations and...
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rosco61
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I think they produced some 175 or there about Fletcher class Destroyers in a short 4 year span. They were war machines not expected to last a lifetime. That is just one class of ships. Think of that.
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Fletcher-class destroyer - Wikipedia
I think they produced some 175 or there about Fletcher class Destroyers in a short 4 year span. They were war machines not expected to last a lifetime. That is just one class of ships. Think of that.
Fletcher-class destroyer - Wikipedia
Not really a problem. When you are producing such a large item during war time, you need to produce quantity as well as quality. You want a ship which will last for the duration of the war plus some reasonable time thereafter. It's silly to produce a destroyer that will last some 70 years and be a permanent museum piece . Not to mention prohibitively expensive. Besides, by all accounts this was an outstanding class of ship and did all that was asked of it.
Fletcher-class destroyer - Wikipedia
rosco61
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You know what would be great? Visit and support this ship and it's right in my backyard.
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Then you need to take that up with the OP.
I'll just warn you, I took it up with him and he told me to:
"Bugger off, mate!"
Yes, they do.
And the title of the thread was from the first or second line of the original TV report.
Maybe the holes weren’t there last month?
commodon
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I was under the impression the ship had been taking on water for a while and the holes didn't just appear overnight. With this impression and perhaps it is false, I would have thought proactively sending a few divers down once in a while would be routine maintenance to plug any holes. At the same time, perhaps increase the bilge output to offset the volume of incoming water?
Regardless, I am learning it's not as simple as I was thinking, and these types of things were not possible.
The concern by museum ship fans is the repair cost for the hull and recovery will make it impossible to sustain.
USS Cod, a Gato Class sub built at Electric Boat, just got a major refurbishment. Not sure how that’s controlled.
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USS Cod, a Gato Class sub built at Electric Boat, just got a major refurbishment. Not sure how that’s controlled.
USS COD HOMEPAGE
commodon
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Thanks for sharing
