What to do on a rainy Sunday Afternoon?

[Patriot]

Detail Strip the Gold Cup, that's what!

Now to figure out how to put all those itty-bitty pieces back together correctly.
(It's easy to put them back together incorrectly - ask me how I know!)

 

[jhrosier]

I took a series 80 completely down a couple times.
They are a major pain to reassemble.
Perhaps even impossible without a pair of tweezers to get the small parts back in.

I don't think I will buy another one.

The standard 1911 is easy to detail strip and reassemble.

If you are real good, you can detail strip it without any tools.

 

[MassMark]

LOL...Been there my friend...been there. Nothing like putting it all together and not being able to pull back the slide, (or does that only happen to me?)

 

[TonyD]

What to do on a rainy Sunday Afternoon?

I just made a drink and watched the race!

 

[depicts]

Patriot, ever see a Gold Cup with an Ambi safety lever?

How hard would it be to put one on a blue series 70 Gold Cup? I shoot lefty.

 

[Garys]

I just made a drink and watched the race!

What race? The Marathon is tomorrow! OH, you mean NASCAR. So, who gets the points, Busch or Earnhardt? <G>

Gary

 

[dwarven1]

Went to the range with crfriend to try out my new mousegun. I wasn't impressed by it's "reliability". I'll strip it down and give it a thorough cleaning and find some other ammo to try, too. Didn't like Minimags, Federal HPs or Remington HPs (well, nothing I've got likes those @#$%& Remington HP's since they changed the bullet design. )

Had fun with my CZ75 and my 10-22, though.

 

[The Goose]

Richard, I hope it still goes bang! You are an ambitious man!

 

[SKS Ray]

I'll stick to SKS rifles.

 

[andy t]

Well, earlier today I went to the bowling pin shoot at MRA.
But thanks for reminding me why I stick with "tupperware guns", despite having a voice in the back of my mind say something about a 1911.

Andrew.

 

[Patriot]

Patriot, ever see a Gold Cup with an Ambi safety lever?

How hard would it be to put one on a blue series 70 Gold Cup? I shoot lefty.

I'm not sure. I have heard that most anything you want to do will usually
require a little fitting. I shoot lefty as well but have adapted pretty well to
the 'wrong side' safety.

 

[Patriot]

Well, earlier today I went to the bowling pin shoot at MRA.
But thanks for reminding me why I stick with "tupperware guns", despite having a voice in the back of my mind say something about a 1911.

Andrew.

It isn't bad. It came apart simple and so far (never having done this before) it's
not that big a deal putting it back together. I haunted the 1911 boards to
pick up a few tricks of the trade and tool recommendations (cotton swab sticks
& AR-15 Firing Pins). My biggest problem is trying to get the correct
order reassembling, but that is just part of the learning process. So far, it's
a lot better than my Ruger MK II.

Stay tuned for further updates!

TBP

 

[M1911]

Sigh. I was doing homework from 10 AM until 9 PM...

 

[blindndead]

Xbox 360, I beat call of duty 3

 

[madmarc0]

That disconnector is the hardest part, after that it's a breeze!

 

[Patriot]

That disconnector is the hardest part, after that it's a breeze!

PLUS, it let's me play with my other toys (camera). This is a detailed close up of
the sear, sear depressor, sear depressor spring and disconnector.

TBP

 

[matt]

PLUS, it let's me play with my other toys (camera). This is a detailed close up of
the sear, sear depressor, sear depressor spring and disconnector.

TBP

My S&W doesn't have that sear depressor and I haven't seen it on any assembly drawings. What does it do?

 

[Len-2A Training]

I think it's the extra "safety" mechanism only in the Colt 80 series.

 

[Patriot]

It's only on Gold Cup Models. They were added by Colt to eliminate sear-bounce hammer releases
on both the 70 and 80 series.

http://www.m1911.org/technic16.htm

 

[Cuz]

I went and shot the USPSA match at Manville. Six glorious qualifier stages out in the pouring rain. What better way to earn a qualification in the Production Division.

-Cuz.

 

[Patriot]

It's back together. Interesting effort. I didn't take the firing pin apart and
just put a drop of oil in the mainspring housing as I didn't take that apart either.

I learned a few things that will make it a lot easier the next time. One thing
I learned was the Kuhnhausen manual isn't the book you need to deal with
disassembly and reassembly. In fact, it sucks for that. The biggest problem I
had was putting the thumb safety back. I had the hammer too far forward and
it was locked solid. It was when I eased off it a little the rest of the
assembly came together like a PB&J sandwich. I think that the cleaning
cleared my problem (sticky grease) with the trigger return. It's lubed slicker
than my truck engine now. Brian Enos Slide Glide and Breakfree is an awesome
combo.

One place I did run across that is an excellent tutorial on this is the Kimber II
instructions on the kerensky site:

http://www.kerensky.net/pics/series2/

Next up is the series 70, then the.... and the....

TBP

 

[The Goose]

Good job man. You have inspired me!

 

[Patriot]

Good job man. You have inspired me!

Goose,

It really isn't as weird as some people make it out to be. I have reams of
patience and tenacity so problems I run into are just challenges to overcome.
This is what made this so interesting. Not to say I didn't go into it with some
trepidation (I did) as it wouldn't be the first time I have had to get someone
else help me finding a place for all the 'extra' pieces.

All in all, it was a piece of cake to strip and not very difficult to get together.
A few basic tools (AR-15 firing pin, lots of cotton swabs, a nice tweezer, a
soft mallet, a couple of soft punches, an Inova small flashlight to see inside,
and a 4d nail) make it easy to deal with. If you need some help, just PM me.

The Gold Cup has extra pieces that don't exist on other models. Series 80's
have extra safety pieces that aren't on earlier models. While they present a
more complicated assembly, they aren't a big problem either.

Last night I took apart my Series 70 that I purchased last year and it has the
filthiest gun internals that I have ever seen. My most neglected shooter is
pristine when compared to this. As I speak it is floating in a pool of MPro7 to
try to penetrate the grime. Getting it together ought to be a piece of cake
after the Gold Cup. Mechanically (even through the filth) it looks to be in good
condition excepting that one of the grip screw thingies in the handle
came out with the screw and I think that it is cross-threaded with the screw.
I haven't taken apart the firing pin and mainspring assembly yet, but I expect
those to be in like condition, filthy and mechanically sound. It is a good
shooter in spite of it's condition. This will probably be the first cleaning it has
had in twenty years or more.

It's a good feeling when you finish cleaning these as you know what you are
shooting with. My Gold Cup internals, while dirty (heavy old grease) are in
excellent mechanical condition.

Lubrication is another issue. I got a lot of lubrication recommendations from
various places including NES and settled on Brian Enos Slide Guide and
Breakfree (thanks Cross-X) and I'm pleased with the results. Whatever you
are using for lube would probably be fine as well. I do feel that with the
nature of the semi's that lubrication (along with regular cleaning) is one of the
more important requirements for a long lasting, good shooting pistol.

TBP

 

[Patriot]

I think it's the extra "safety" mechanism only in the Colt 80 series.

These are the series 80 'extra' safety components. Looking at the 1911 from
the rear they are located on the right side of the pistol. The first one is held in
place by the sear pin and is a little difficult to position but not bad. The
second one is held in place by the hammer pin and isn't at all difficult to position.

TBP

 

[Patriot]

Range update. I took the GCNM to the range today and my sticking trigger
problem is a thing of the past. What a shooter this is! Once I got used to
the slick trigger action it was a pleasure using it. I also took the Series 70
that I did a complete detail strip on and that improved as much as the GC.