Why stay?

I'm ready to go. I HATE this socialist state, and if even have a small belief that it will change for the better, you are fooling yourself.


I was born in CA as an Air Force brat (and I stress BRAT) My father was stationed here when I was only 13 months old, and believe it or not (other than a 1 year remote tour in Korea) Hanscom was his assigned base for over 22 years. Both of my parents are from ME, and after my father retired, they stayed in MA. I guess you can say I have lived here for my whole life. I don't really remember anything of living elsewhere. I purchased my first home in NH, and sold it 6 months to the day and bought a house in MA. I mostly did that, because of the psycho ex I was living with.

While living in my current house (same town as my folks, and sister) I met the most wonderful woman! She was into guns, hunting, and all things American. We had talked about moving to NH, and she was quite supportive of the prospects. She was diagnosed with cancer, and all through her 3.5 year battle our plans never really changed, though because of her treatments being in Boston, moving was not likely. Our plans just kept getting pushed back every time we would get that horrible news "Your cancer has returned" (it happened quite a few times). Our plan was to ride it out, until she was in full remission for 1 year. We made it to 6 months once, only to get that bad news again...

2 months ago, she lost her battle with cancer, and I had to bury my best friend, soul mate, and love of my life. I think by not moving, I would be doing her an injustice. She wanted it almost as bad as I did, though our family's are here in MA. I know she liked the prospect of having more property, a bigger house, and a better place to raise a family.

There's nothing holding me back any longer. My family is still here, but for the love of god we are only talking a 45 minute drive away! There are still a few things I want to do to my house before it goes on the market, and realistically I am looking to be gone by next spring. I have a goal, and it's achievable.

It will be a bit hard to leave my house behind. I like my neighbors. There are a LOT of good memories in that house, but almost as many bad (hard) memories as well. They will all come with me, I don't think I would want to leave any of them behind anyway, they are part of me. And like me, they will live in NH, where they belong!
 
Several reasons;

1 - Because i was born and raised here... this is my home and I'll be damned if a politiacally corrupt government is going to drive me from my home.

2 - Because someone needs to continue to fight the fight.

3 - My and my wife's jobs are here, and unfortunately we both actually love our work and where we work.

4 - My children are young and I want them to grow up in one home.

5 - I own my home (or at least a good part of it) and have put literal, blood sweat and tears into making it the way I want it. I'm not going to pack up and move without a fight.

I'll be damned if these ma**h***s are going to push me out without a fight. the wife and I have talked about it, and the gun issue is a big one with both of us in MA... but we wont give up or give in.
 
my opinion

Both myself and Mrs. B are natives. Its not easy as a self employed
to move. Just not that simple as stated.

We have decided to depart in roughly 3 years. Most of the family
has passed on. My wifes mother is in Fla.

There's a lot of reasons we want to leave. The cost of living is
one of the biggest... the climate is not the best, if you like winter
OK thats good. We do not... we prefer a more comfortable climate.

Then there is the gun issue... a lot of people in this state have
a real bad opinion of firearms.... mostly because they have never been exposed to them or educated about them.

Then there's the politics, but to be honest, politics is politics
and no matter where you go its basically the same. Its just that
some are worse than others. This state ranks (IMO) as one of the
worst.

I would list them but you already know... Big Dig sound familiar.
How about the Mass Turnpike. Illegals in Cambridge, now Worcester.

JimB
 
dwarven1 said:
An interesting point. I have to wonder, though, if the difference is that, at least nominally, MA is a democratic state, and that we are supposed to be able to fight back through the ballot box. I question if the Germans had that ability once Hitler was firmly ensconced (yes, I know he was elected Chancellor). In any rate, there's another difference, in that if Spend It All Deval started putting concentration camps together, the federal government would be jumping on him as well as the various gun owners who've somehow managed to not be registered.

Still an excellent point to consider: at what point do we who love our freedoms (and our Second Amendment rights) decide that it is all-out war on us and we need to escape? And what are we willing to pay or put on the line? Our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor? [thinking]
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I wonder who is counting the votes. I believe there is supposed to be around 200,000 gun owners in Mass. but we could not get a gun friendly AG elected he only got if I remember correctly around 30,000 votes. Either votes are not being counted accurately or alot of gun owners are not voting or they are voting for deval and others like him. They really need too start voting to save the RKBA or sooner or later we will lose alot more of our rights. I don't know exactly how the quote goes but it is something like this: It is not who votes it is who counts the votes that decides the outcome. So not only do we need to vote we need to watch who is counting the votes.
As far as moving I would love too but at this time family keeps me here but if and when the opportunity arises I will be out of here.
 
Wahsben, Larry Frisoli didn't run a very good campaign. He also didn't have an opportunity to debate Martha Coakley - she refused - or he'd have torn her apart. Which I'm sure she knew. He had one other big disadvantage... he was running as a Republican in MA.

The Massachusetts Republican party isn't on life support; it's being wheeled down to the morgue. [frown]
 
well you look and tell me..
sandplay.jpg

I'm divorced and the only normal-sy(?) is the time she can expect to spend with me.. 45min-1 hrs drive both ways is not quality time spent! If it was not for her..i would have been gone along time ago.... and i would probably be far far away from here. With regards to Mom and Dad..there are planes to catch, cars to drive..heck i think there are still trains running! Come see me! So for the time being I stuck!!! (I Love you Sweetpea!)

p.s sorry about the pic size
 
All I can say is that if the firearms and firearm ownership are your main reasons for moving to NH or ME, then I'm jealous of how un-complex your life is (not meant as an insult to anyone). For those with children with special needs, very few states in the COUNTRY can come close to MA in special education quality. So, here we stay, his education/future comes before a bayonet lug...
 
coastie said:
Have to ask those of you in MA. If it is so bad down there why stay? I often wonder this and reading your responses from my post regarding my friend who might move there it surprises me that as many stick around. Not trying to start anything but I am just curious. I spent four glorious years in MA going to college but yuo couldnt make me live there for all the money in the world.
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Fair question I suppose. I consider moving often, but to where I don't know. As I like to say, if not for the cost of living, traffic, weather, Mass-holes, and gun laws, it would be a great place to live! But, moving is a huge PITA, where to move is unclear at this time, and moving brings it's own problems....[thinking]

And, to be as honest as you were, as much as I have my issues with MA - and I do! - you couldn't pay me enough to live in the state you are now, so how you feel about MA I may feel about ME. Nice place to visit, but I would not want to live there. If I ever leave MA, it will be in the direction of warmer weather and not toward any place that has an even shorter summer and longer winter than here...[laugh2]
 
for me, i grew up here, my family is here. more importantly, i have MS and the social;ist healthcare. i get very good care provided by the govt. i don't support the ideas, but i'd be a fool to not take advantage of it.
 
this will piss you off

I was listening to 96.9 Tkk. they were discussing pensions for those
who work at the MBTA. after 23 years you can retire, full pension
medical for like... Besides that 20% of the sales tax collected
goes to the MBTA.

Personally i'm a little sick of all this kinda bullshit. Its is so out
of line with reality, Pensions don't exist in Industry anymore...

Finneran the Felon (admitted) is appealing his pension...

You ask why folks want to move. ????

If you listen to this station you already know Jim Braude is one of
biggest proponents of big government and big time spending.
He is also very pissed at the above.

It gets worse the legislators get to make the rules, like pay raises
so they are not about to change a lot of things without rocking
the boat and changing pensions of other.

As for me, i have decided to escape..this horeshit is not for me.

JimB
 
I was born here in MA and lived here my whole life - and my family has been in MA and NH for generations ( like 200 years ). Staying is quite annoying sometimes - but leaving feels like some of the previous posters have said - it feels like copping out. Believe it or not I think that there is a good percentage of the population in this state that aren't really as liberal as the general opinion would have you believe. It is mostly Boston and the surrounding towns that give that perception. I can't say I honestly know of any of my friends that I would consider a gun phobic liberal. I do have some people I would call aquaintances that I know position themselves as liberal - but they seem to be smart enough not to make a big deal out of it.

Besides - the first revolution started here, with any luck the second one will too. And I want to be in on it.[wink]
 
It's just not easy to pick up a life and move. I was born here but lived for 12 years in Maine. All my family is up there except 1 in NH. Even my grandmother is up there now, moved at the age of 93, to be closer to 1 of her daughters who takes care of her all the time. I moved to Boston to go to college, met my husband, and ended up staying in Ma. We live in a green town hopefully as we will be taking our class in a couple of weeks and then getting our LTC A ALP (hopefully) right after. We chose this town because of the education system for our son when we moved here. Gun permits didn't figure into it at all. I often tell friends that when my son is out of high school I'll be more than happy to move north or somewhere else that's friendlier to gun owners. But that isn't for another 10 years. A lot can happen in that time. I'm going back to college (never did finish) and starting a new career. Hopefully it will be portable. My husband works for a defense contractor. He's an engineer and has always worked for one contractor or another so we will always be tied to that industry. When our son gets married and has kids we definitely want to be near enough to be a part of that. So who knows. Living where we do allowed me to be very helpful for my sister and her family when her son had cancer and was being treated at Boston's Childrens Hospital. I wouldn't have traded being there for them for any gun I can't own as a resident of Massachusetts. It's not as easy as just packing up and hitting the road.
 
FITH said:
well you look and tell me..
sandplay.jpg

I'm divorced and the only normal-sy(?) is the time she can expect to spend with me.. 45min-1 hrs drive both ways is not quality time spent! If it was not for her..i would have been gone along time ago.... and i would probably be far far away from here. With regards to Mom and Dad..there are planes to catch, cars to drive..heck i think there are still trains running! Come see me! So for the time being I stuck!!! (I Love you Sweetpea!)

p.s sorry about the pic size
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Beats any of the reasons anyone can give for moving!
 
A 96 Year Old Mother, a 94 Year Old Mother-In-Law, and a wife reluctant to move to NH.
Other than that I'm Golden and would move in a heartbeat! [smile]

Actually if I could convince my wife to leave her family behind I would move out west to
Idaho, Montana, or Wyoming.
 
abundigas said:
Our master plan is to stay in Ma. and slowly send all the Bunny Huggin, Tree Smoochin, Liberal Dems your way, and in case you have not looked around in NH or Maine lately it is working.. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha...
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Your plan is working. And that's part of the reason I'm moving west next month. This part of Maine is becoming too much like a Chicago suburb I once lived in.
 
threejean said:
Because the rest of the country is basically Dumbf@#kistan.
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Really? I have lived in the "rest of the country" and I have lived in MA, and I have to strongly disagree with you. The "rest of the country" is not that bad neither that dumb.

When I was coming to MA I shared your attitude. I thought that MA is the greatest state (so the people form MA told me :) ). After having lived and worked here for 6 years I cannot wait to get out.

Your hard earned dollar does not go as far in MA as in most other states. The extreme "idealistic" liberalism gets on my nerves. The traffic, the T, the narrow convoluted streets, the housing prices, the bicycle riders that do not follow traffic rules, the GUN LAWS....etc get me so worked up.

I am not rooted in MA (luckily) and as soon as my better half graduates we are gone. Gone to a state where I do not need to make half a million to live comfortably!

I respect the attitude of having to stay because of home and family taking a priority over RKBA. Hopefully my wife and I will be joining our family in a free state in two years or so. I am counting the days...seriously!

Best,
AIG
 

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