You Could Say I Am a Sniper Now ...

[paul73]

All my long guns…. 100 yards. That’s all. After reading this thread I now need to join the .40 and 6.5 club. Those will have to be my next purchases.

going below 6.5 for hunting makes little sense. if for PRS - the 6mm is the best, with almost no recoil and excellent ballistics to a 1000.
those who make fun of a 6.5CM should see a 6 Dasher round.

if i would want to bust @Broc balls, i would say the way to go would be to begin right away with a 6.5x47 lapua, but, i myself decided not to mess with it neither.
barrel life of my bergara lrp2 in 6.5CM that shoots 1/4 moa so far seems to be excellent, with a moderate load i developed. hope it will stay like that for long enough.
a 6CM barrel would be long dead by now.

 

[Parker Schreiber]

 

[Broc]

Vortex viper pst2 5-25

The Viper seems to be a really nice scope from what I read.

 

[AJK129]

The Viper seems to be a really nice scope from what I read.

I have 3 of them

 

[paul73]

The Viper seems to be a really nice scope from what I read.

you missed the time to buy a scope - arken stopped its sale on EP5 and new EPL4. EPL4 is now at $439 again.
both are on par with pst2 clarity wise, but probably NOT warranty wise. eurooptic still has on sale pst2 with older reticles at $750 level.

i replaced my pst2 with EP5 now, they are better. not going to sell my pst2, though.

whoever who was praising athlon cronus was also right - i looked at one other day, they are quite good. but the EP5 is a better value, though.

 

[Woodsloafer]

intended use:

Hunting - Wyoming - so anywhere from 100 to 400 yards, maybe 500. But I will try to not go past 350-400 unless I am very comfortable reading the wind. I don't have a ton of practice there.

For range fun .. up to 600 yards.

Budget:
- no budget. I want to buy something good, but also don't need a $1,500 scope. I need ot to be light, clear and preferably have an illuminated reticle in MOA.

Platform:
Bolt action.

My eyes are great so I prefer to not use a ton of magnification, I was thinking 4x for the long range, but it might be too much if I engage a target at 100 yards. So maybe a 2x or 3x?

There might be some that hit harder.
Some that are slightly flatter.
Some that are slightly faster.
...

But what I liked about the 6.5cm is barrel life compared to some of the claimed cartridges to be better, factory ammo is way cheaper, reloading it is also cheaper, there are a lot of rifles available.

I would use a 45/70 and f*ck all the other calibers, but shooting a bullet with the BC of a school bus past 300 yards in a very windy day is very challenging and I don't have the amount of time to properly practice.

I was going to go with 308, but ... decided to try 6.5cm.

You're gonna wish you had something bigger than a 6.5 if you happen into an unruly grizzly while hunting in Wyoming. If you read some of the information on Wyoming hunting units there are some areas where they advise that multiple encounters with grizzlies are likely during the course of a hunt. The Creedmoor may be great in terms of efficiency for long range but not the greatest with a close encounter with a grizzly unless you are using a properly designed heavy for caliber bullet. It's nice to have a gun that will serve all purposes if needed.

 

[Rockrivr1]

You're gonna wish you had something bigger than a 6.5 if you happen into an unruly grizzly while hunting in Wyoming. If you read some of the information on Wyoming hunting units there are some areas where they advise that multiple encounters with grizzlies are likely during the course of a hunt. The Creedmoor may be great in terms of efficiency for long range but not the greatest with a close encounter with a grizzly unless you are using a properly designed heavy for caliber bullet. It's nice to have a gun that will serve all purposes if needed.

Hence why you should be carrying a S&W 500 in a chest rig.

 

[Daddy Mac]

Joking aside ...

I am not looking at scopes in a certain price range, but came across this video. I thought it was really good, very honest, with a variety of scopes tested.


View: https://youtu.be/qpJ10iKzG30

Leupold VX Freedom 4-12X40 is offered with a Creedmoore reticle that has long range holdover points calculated specifically for the round. Offered for $345.00 at most places. Don't ask me how I know. I like to buy American when I can and I'm also a cheap bastard so it was a good fit.

 

[paul73]

Hence why you should be carrying a S&W 500 in a chest rig.

i have no experience, but from what old hunters were telling me - bears, well, siberian brown bears at least, are extremely smart and older ones make the hell out of the way when they smell gunpowder around. are grizzlies there so arrogant so they actually attack unprovoked a person they see to have a rifle on and smell guns?

 

[Woodsloafer]

Hence why you should be carrying a S&W 500 in a chest rig.

Sure, if you want to carry that weight around along with a pack and your rifle walking a few miles a day in difficult terrain.

 

[Broc]

You're gonna wish you had something bigger than a 6.5 if you happen into an unruly grizzly while hunting in Wyoming. If you read some of the information on Wyoming hunting units there are some areas where they advise that multiple encounters with grizzlies are likely during the course of a hunt. The Creedmoor may be great in terms of efficiency for long range but not the greatest with a close encounter with a grizzly unless you are using a properly designed heavy for caliber bullet. It's nice to have a gun that will serve all purposes if needed.

I will carry a gun and it will be a group of 3 or 4 people. All people that have plenty of experience hunting there, they go every year.

 

[Broc]

Hence why you should be carrying a S&W 500 in a chest rig.

No way. I wouldn't carry one of my BFR. Too big, too uncomfortable. I would carry it if I was hunting with it, but not as a secondary gun.

 

[Rockrivr1]

Sure, if you want to carry that weight around along with a pack and your rifle walking a few miles a day in difficult terrain.

I hear ya. But if a bear is charging it will definitely worth the weight.

I watched a documentary of a big game hunt in Alaska and the guides carried 500s. During the hunt a group of young grizzlies were checking them out. Everyone had their handguns out and one bear came way to close so the fired one round into the ground next to the bear and it ran off. If I was there I’d want to be packing as well.

 

[Woodsloafer]

The Creedmoor is efficient but the 143 gr 6.5 does not shoot any flatter than a 30-06 178 gr. I'll take the 30-06. And a 270 Win. is much flatter shooting.

Rifle Ammunition - Hornady Manufacturing, Inc

Hand inspected ammunition to ensure consistency and quality throughout the process.

www.hornady.com

https://www.hornady.com/ammunition/rifle/270-win-140-gr-sst-superformance#!/

https://www.hornady.com/ammunition/rifle/270-win-145-gr-eld-x-precision-hunter#!/

Pick up a Kimber 84L in 270 or 30-06 and you'll have one of the best rifles for western hunting.

 

[Rate_of_Twist]

Guys, the owner manual says I have to remind you every once in a while I own a 6.5cm and you can't touch it.

This is the reminder.

I really couldn’t disagree more with your reminder schedule…

I find to maintain the best tactical accuracy of anything chambered in 6.5 Manbunn you need to remind people at least twice a week that you run 6.5, once a week you need to completely shit on .308, and no less than once a month you need to visit the Nightforce website to stay up to date on the latest and greatest 432 aiming point christmas tree reticle porn.

Also, dry fire drills in your underwear with your rig on a tripod is essential

 

[Rate_of_Twist]

The Viper seems to be a really nice scope from what I read.

I have a pair, one on my 6mm Creed, the other on my Vudoo .22. They don’t suck. They are also NOT a S&B

Also, you apparently may or many not be a retard according to some for owning one.

 

[Rockrivr1]

For my build I decided to cry once and bought a 5-25x56 Nightforce ATACR. I put it up against my Vortex scopes and while Vortex glass is good the Nightforce was definitely better.

 

[ThePreBanMan]

The Creedmoor is efficient but the 143 gr 6.5 does not shoot any flatter than a 30-06 178 gr. I'll take the 30-06. And a 270 Win. is much flatter shooting.

Rifle Ammunition - Hornady Manufacturing, Inc

Hand inspected ammunition to ensure consistency and quality throughout the process.

www.hornady.com

https://www.hornady.com/ammunition/rifle/270-win-140-gr-sst-superformance#!/

https://www.hornady.com/ammunition/rifle/270-win-145-gr-eld-x-precision-hunter#!/

Pick up a Kimber 84L in 270 or 30-06 and you'll have one of the best rifles for western hunting.

Stop making sense and being practical. We're all about fashion statement cartridges here. Do you even 300 Blackout bro? Let's not forget that the 30-06 chamber pressures vs the 6.5 means the barrel will last 10 longer too! But who doesn't want to change out their barrels as often as they change oil in their truck?

 

[paul73]

For my build I decided to cry once and bought a 5-25x56 Nightforce ATACR. I put it up against my Vortex scopes and while Vortex glass is good the Nightforce was definitely better.

if he wants to hunt with it, it is not applicable nor needed.
a Swarovski z5i 3.5-18x, may be, with a ballistic turret. a different use case altogether.

 

[Quantavious G]

No .40 is gay, 6.5CM is flamboyantly awesome

so 6.5 Homore is what Liberace would shoot, if he were into shooting?

 

[paul73]

so 6.5 Homore is what Liberace would shoot, if he were into shooting?
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who is liber ace?

 

[Quantavious G]

who is liber ace?

he was a "flamboyant" singer and piano player from the days way before 6.5 Creedmore.

 

[jkelly1229]

There might be some that hit harder.
Some that are slightly flatter.
Some that are slightly faster.
...

But what I liked about the 6.5cm is barrel life compared to some of the claimed cartridges to be better, factory ammo is way cheaper, reloading it is also cheaper, there are a lot of rifles available.

I would use a 45/70 and f*ck all the other calibers, but shooting a bullet with the BC of a school bus past 300 yards in a very windy day is very challenging and I don't have the amount of time to properly practice.

I was going to go with 308, but ... decided to try 6.5cm.

You know what the real men did when combatted with the ballistic ineffecincies of the 45/70. They spat out their chaw... went on nes to bitch about millenials then added 40 more grams of powder for a 45/110.. do it its the only manly thing to do

 

[Road_Clam]

The Viper seems to be a really nice scope from what I read.

Lot's of my F Class 600 yd shooting buddies love the Vortex's another awesome value for the quality glass and the price. I have the Crossfire II 1-4X on my competition service rifle AR and very happy with the quality.

 

[Blackmore]

.338 Lapua

 

[ThePreBanMan]

There might be some that hit harder.
Some that are slightly flatter.
Some that are slightly faster.
...

But what I liked about the 6.5cm is barrel life compared to some of the claimed cartridges to be better, factory ammo is way cheaper, reloading it is also cheaper, there are a lot of rifles available.

I would use a 45/70 and f*ck all the other calibers, but shooting a bullet with the BC of a school bus past 300 yards in a very windy day is very challenging and I don't have the amount of time to properly practice.

I was going to go with 308, but ... decided to try 6.5cm.

Barrel life is NOT a check in the asset column for the 6.5.

 

[AJK129]

Barrel life is NOT a check in the asset column for the 6.5.

Depends on what you're comparing to

 

[Yota79]

I will need a good scope. Not sure what yet. Looking at Swampfox, but need to do a lot of reading, not sold on those yet.

Won't be a competition rifle, but I don't want some cheap junk.

Don't the Swampfox Elite optics come standard on the Red Jacket Arms Elite Team Package rifles? I've had my good eye on one...

 

[Woodsloafer]

Stop making sense and being practical. We're all about fashion statement cartridges here. Do you even 300 Blackout bro? Let's not forget that the 30-06 chamber pressures vs the 6.5 means the barrel will last 10 longer too! But who doesn't want to change out their barrels as often as they change oil in their truck?

I would absolutely love to shoot out a barrel in a bolt action rifle - that would be a well-lived firearm.

 

[Woodsloafer]

I hear ya. But if a bear is charging it will definitely worth the weight.

I watched a documentary of a big game hunt in Alaska and the guides carried 500s. During the hunt a group of young grizzlies were checking them out. Everyone had their handguns out and one bear came way to close so the fired one round into the ground next to the bear and it ran off. If I was there I’d want to be packing as well.

I'm not dismissing having a handgun, I would just have one of these and practice with lighter loads and then load up with some Buffalo Bore or something similar. You wouldn't even know it was there for the most part. Matter of fact, if I find one for the right price I will probably pull the trigger

https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/n-frame-163414