A new low: CCI Blazer .22

[22lr]

I used to hold Winchester White Box as the low standard for bulk .22. Well, that now goes to CCI Blazer. I picked up a case from TS over the holidays.

Every box looks like this. Every round is covered in this black filth (wax maybe?). There is a pile of whatever it is at the bottom.

My rugers which normally eat anything were choking on this gunk. Never again Blazer, you let me down.

Please post if you have any tips on how to clean these rounds (I have a lot of them). And stay far away from Blazer .22!

 

[Marty McFly]

Ts has these super cheap. I burn through them without an issue. Has been a marlin 60 and a 10/22

 

[slipknot]

Run them in a vibratory case cleaner with corn cob.

 

[Agnotology]

Run them in a vibratory case cleaner with corn cob.

I did not read that right at first. felt like reptile.

 

[tinhorn]

Run them in a vibratory case cleaner with corn cob.

Like you buy at Petco?

I've read that putting ammo into a tumbler can break down and affect the characteristics of the powder. Don't know how significant that would be with .22. I had an old box of .45 Long Colt with some corrosion that I wanted to salvage when I did the research.

 

[slipknot]

Like you buy at Petco?

I've read that putting ammo into a tumbler can break down and affect the characteristics of the powder. Don't know how significant that would be with .22. I had an old box of .45 Long Colt with some corrosion that I wanted to salvage when I did the research.

Not a tumbler
A case cleaner as in a reloading case prep tool

If it is safe for centerfire rifle rounds, a few minutes for a batch of rimfire rounds should be fine.
Like this

RCBS Vibratory Case Tumbler

The RCBS Vibratory Case Polisher shines up to 14 pounds of brass/media at one time with aggressive vibrating action. A quiet motor powers the cleaner,...

www.midwayusa.com

Or try wiping them all with a towel or something

You probably know someone who reloads

 

[jkelly1229]

I did not read that right at first. felt like reptile.

Didn't say you can mix a little business with pleasure

 

[jkelly1229]

Ts has these super cheap. I burn through them without an issue. Has been a marlin 60 and a 10/22

Right its ammo who cares

 

[gerrycaruso]

I was going to suggest a few minutes in a vibratory case cleaner but ONLY a few. 22 ammo is outside lubricated and I'm guessing that removing all the wax from the bullet wouldn't be a good thing.

 

[gerrycaruso]

If you're looking for the lowest priced 22 ammo, TS has 5 offerings that are slightly less than CCI Blazer.

 

[Lennypeters]

If you're looking for the lowest priced 22 ammo, TS has 5 offerings that are slightly less than CCI Blazer.

My LGS has Magtek 40 grain std velocity for $2.99 per 50. I've shot a bunch of it including in Bullseye matches and it is good stuff. Made in Brazil I think.

 

[Taipan01]

Run them in a vibratory case cleaner with corn cob.

I run .22's and .380's sometimes thru my rotary also with corn cob. I do about a brick at a time for around a half hour. When they are done, I lay them out on an old towel or rag, then roll them up and roll them around in it. Gets the bulk of the dust off them. I then lay them out again on a clean rag and give them a quick spray with Remi-dry lube and roll them around again. I do it to get rid of the wax lube on some .22's (stuff can be excessive at times) and replace it with the Remi. I also wipe the internals dry and spray those with a dry lube. I can go all day long with just a quick wipe down of what I can reach in the chamber and a bore snake with another quick blast in the chamber area as there is none of the usual gunk. It makes the .380's super slick.

 

[Agnotology]

I run .22's and .380's sometimes thru my rotary also with corn cob. I do about a brick at a time for around a half hour. When they are done, I lay them out on an old towel or rag, then roll them up and roll them around in it. Gets the bulk of the dust off them. I then lay them out again on a clean rag and give them a quick spray with Remi-dry lube and roll them around again. I do it to get rid of the wax lube on some .22's (stuff can be excessive at times) and replace it with the Remi. I also wipe the internals dry and spray those with a dry lube. I can go all day long with just a quick wipe down of what I can reach in the chamber and a bore snake with another quick blast in the chamber area as there is none of the usual gunk. It makes the .380's super slick.

part of me wants to test if the friction reduction has any kind of effect on muzzle velocity. Even picking up 25 or so FPS in a .380 would be good as they are subsonic in most loadings.

 

[Marty McFly]

part of me wants to test if the friction reduction has any kind of effect on muzzle velocity. Even picking up 25 or so FPS in a .380 would be good as they are subsonic in most loadings.

My guess is no more than a lubed barrel. Better for feeding since they set them crooked sometimes lol

 

[Agnotology]

My guess is no more than a lubed barrel. Better for feeding since they set them crooked sometimes lol

I save the bent and messed up lead projectiles to feed into the glock 44. Punishment for being such a picky bitch on ammo.

 

[BroncoAZ]

I save the bent and messed up lead projectiles to feed into the glock 44. Punishment for being such a picky bitch on ammo.

My Glock 44 eats Federal bulk pack like popcorn. Not the same as this Blazer, but not known to be great ammo. I’ve never fed the G44 anything else.

 

[Agnotology]

My Glock 44 eats Federal bulk pack like popcorn. Not the same as this Blazer, but not known to be great ammo. I’ve never fed the G44 anything else.

this stuff?

Federal AutoMatch 22 Long Rifle Ammo 40 Grain Lead Round Nose 325 Rounds

Federal AutoMatch 22 Long Rifle Ammo 40 Grain Lead Round Nose at Target Sports USA with free shipping available. Enjoy deals on 22 Long Rifle ammo.|^||^|

www.targetsportsusa.com

or the Federal Champion in the blue box?

Federal Champion Training 22 Long Rifle Ammo 36 Grain Lead Hollow Point

Federal Champion Training 22 Long Rifle Ammo 36 Grain Lead Hollow Point at Target Sports USA with free shipping available. Enjoy deals on 22 Long Rifl|^||^|

www.targetsportsusa.com

auto-match is my go-to, feels like it has a bit more nut to it despite being heavier than champion. I gotta get a chrono, see which is faster despite the weight.

 

[gerrycaruso]

That blue box stuff is at TS for very slightly less than the Blazer.

 

[BroncoAZ]

this stuff?

Federal AutoMatch 22 Long Rifle Ammo 40 Grain Lead Round Nose 325 Rounds

Federal AutoMatch 22 Long Rifle Ammo 40 Grain Lead Round Nose at Target Sports USA with free shipping available. Enjoy deals on 22 Long Rifle ammo.|^||^|

www.targetsportsusa.com

or the Federal Champion in the blue box?

Federal Champion Training 22 Long Rifle Ammo 36 Grain Lead Hollow Point

Federal Champion Training 22 Long Rifle Ammo 36 Grain Lead Hollow Point at Target Sports USA with free shipping available. Enjoy deals on 22 Long Rifl|^||^|

www.targetsportsusa.com

auto-match is my go-to, feels like it has a bit more nut to it despite being heavier than champion. I gotta get a chrono, see which is faster despite the weight.

I’m using this stuff. I bought a bunch of it from Walmart for around $13 per box years ago.

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[not new guy]

Those pics in the OP look pretty bad. Does most of the black stuff brush off with a little effort though? Like if you put the rounds between a couple of towels and rubbed them together for a minute would most of it come off, or is it more persistent than that?

 

[BTSDOG]

you try lighting it ? kinda looks like propellant........

 

[steven grammont]

this stuff?

Federal AutoMatch 22 Long Rifle Ammo 40 Grain Lead Round Nose 325 Rounds

Federal AutoMatch 22 Long Rifle Ammo 40 Grain Lead Round Nose at Target Sports USA with free shipping available. Enjoy deals on 22 Long Rifle ammo.|^||^|

www.targetsportsusa.com

or the Federal Champion in the blue box?

Federal Champion Training 22 Long Rifle Ammo 36 Grain Lead Hollow Point

Federal Champion Training 22 Long Rifle Ammo 36 Grain Lead Hollow Point at Target Sports USA with free shipping available. Enjoy deals on 22 Long Rifl|^||^|

www.targetsportsusa.com

auto-match is my go-to, feels like it has a bit more nut to it despite being heavier than champion. I gotta get a chrono, see which is faster despite the weight.

I feel the Auto Match stuff is very inconsistent , you can hear it in the report with every shot. I have a bunch of boxes of it that I would love to get rid of.

 

[Agnotology]

I feel the Auto Match stuff is very inconsistent , you can hear it in the report with every shot. I have a bunch of boxes of it that I would love to get rid of.

I don't get that, but the electronic headphones make it so sound-based feedback is nonexistent. That is the upside to regular shooting earmuffs, everything is reduced the same, so you can still hear subtle differences.

 

[Smash05]

Like you buy at Petco?

I've read that putting ammo into a tumbler can break down and affect the characteristics of the powder. Don't know how significant that would be with .22. I had an old box of .45 Long Colt with some corrosion that I wanted to salvage when I did the research.

This is a rumor and most firearms manufacturers tumble their ammo before sale.

 

[greencobra]

just because it's low priced ammo you shouldn't have to expect that crap. low price to me means inconsistent accuracy, not floor sweepings in each box. i hope you sent those photos to cci for review along with the lot numbers.

 

[Amputee Marksman]

I feel the Auto Match stuff is very inconsistent , you can hear it in the report with every shot. I have a bunch of boxes of it that I would love to get rid of.

I'm sitting on around 2500 rounds of the stuff. I use it my 10/22 when I go plinking however I'd consider trading it for other ammo.

My goto 22 in most cases is good old fashioned CCI SV Target or the CCI Copper Plated RN HV.

 

[Taipan01]

part of me wants to test if the friction reduction has any kind of effect on muzzle velocity. Even picking up 25 or so FPS in a .380 would be good as they are subsonic in most loadings.

Couldn't say anything about velocity increase but I will say that I rarely, and I can't remember when I had the last, failure to feed or eject unless it was a dud with a dead spot and I can't remember the last one of those. I just tumble them to make them slippery for loading/extraction into the chambers and to keep the build up down. The time investment is minimal, about 5 minutes in the actual tumbling/clean process/putting them into a Folgers coffee can. I do other things like wiping the oil out of any rimfires I'm taking and so on when the tumblers going.

The only time investment is if I'm doing a bunch way ahed of time and intend to put them back into the original packaging (not bulk packs) that have the plastic stands. PITA. But even then it's about 10 minutes a brick.

I like the Folgers cans (not so much the coffee unless it was on special) as once the labels off they make for a decent set and the keep my brass that I've prepped spotless for years.

 

[BroncoAZ]

Like you buy at Petco?

I've read that putting ammo into a tumbler can break down and affect the characteristics of the powder. Don't know how significant that would be with .22. I had an old box of .45 Long Colt with some corrosion that I wanted to salvage when I did the research.

This is a rumor and most firearms manufacturers tumble their ammo before sale.

There was something to this with some rifle ammo using long stick powder years ago. If I remember correctly the concern was vibration of bouncing around in a vehicle for years could cause the stick powder to break down exposing more surface area causing it to burn faster. I’ve seen others concerned with vibration causing the powder to pack up in the case. I doubt this would be a concern for rimfire or most centerfire ammo today. Tumbling would be moving the casing in all different directions as it progressed, so I wouldn’t worry about it.

 

[TJjersey]

I used to hold Winchester White Box as the low standard for bulk .22. Well, that now goes to CCI Blazer. I picked up a case from TS over the holidays.

Every box looks like this. Every round is covered in this black filth (wax maybe?). There is a pile of whatever it is at the bottom.

My rugers which normally eat anything were choking on this gunk. Never again Blazer, you let me down.

Please post if you have any tips on how to clean these rounds (I have a lot of them). And stay far away from Blazer .22!

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I haven't bought the bulk but it is usually cleaner than Winchester or especially Aguilar cheap stuff. I just got 500 rds. Fiochi .22lr. and boy, as with all there ammo that I've used 9mm, .380, .38 ,there is a big difference in cleanliness for not that much more money and I notice cleaning, less residue, is better also.

 

[BroncoAZ]

The Aguila ammo always has a cat piss like ammonia smell to it. I never liked running it, but would because it was cheap.