I wanted to try some so I got some hornady boat tail 168gr and loaded them with 46gr of H4985. Put 5 in a clip behind some HXP for comparison. They seemed a bit hot to me, I was hearing a bit more noise during cycling than with the HXP. Not sure though if its too much or just different, everything functioned just fine but I don't want to damage the op rod. Thinking I'll try 5 more at 45.5 and 45gr for comparison but was curious if anyone else loads these for their garand? I also found some info that the 168gr match ammo used 46.5gr of Varget so I'll probably try a handful of those as well.