71montess
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I've been waiting since March.
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ATF eForm 1 mega thread. Process and approvals!
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Shevchenko
NES Member
looking to submit an eForm 1 for an sbr and I'm sure the answer is in this thread but I can't seem to find it with the search. I have 2 sets of prints done at my local pd on the electronic scanner and under reason it's stated "BYLAWS MGL CHAPTER 6 SECTION 172B1/2". I'm assuming these wont suffice? I ordered some FD-258 cards with an ink pad to do my own just in case, but if the ones I have will work I'd rather get the ball rolling today.
Are the scanned fingerprints printed on an FD-258? I scan my prints at a Silencer Shop kiosk and then they print them on an FD-258. The ATF is really only really cares they are on the proper card, they claim its an FBI requirement.
Shevchenko
NES Member
I'm assuming no, the examples I see online specify that FD-258, this does not and this has wilmington pd in the ORI field, if that matters
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You can always try to send those in, the turnaround time is only a couple weeks right now so if they disapprove you it will be fast. If you want a guarantee though, get the FD-258s.
Shevchenko
NES Member
I'll try it now. I just submitted and paid on the eform site, about to go mail the stuff out, do I need to include anything with the 9 pages of output to the CLEO or is it just the form they emailed me that he'll need?
Cover letter and prints to the ATF. I only send the first six pages to CLEO, the last three are instructions.
Shevchenko
NES Member
this is exactly how I did it, hopefully they accept the prints i sent but i'll have the proper cards and an ink pad next week so i'll just resubmit if/when they deny it. do I get the privilege of paying another 2 hundo if I have to re-submit?
CatSnoutSoup
NES Member
I am sure you did, but just to make sure I will ask, did you attach images of your LTC to the e-filing?
Shevchenko
NES Member
nope, i'm an idiot and didn't see anywhere mentioning attaching your ltc, I have it scanned already is there any way to attach it or do I now need to wait for the denial hahI am sure you did, but just to make sure I will ask, did you attach images of your LTC to the e-filing?
CatSnoutSoup
NES Member
No you should be able to go back in and amend it by adding evidence. We forgot one time and went back in a couple hours later and attached .jpeg front and back and it was fine.
I know others here have forgotten as well, perhaps they can give you more detailed directions as honestly I cannot remember the process.
Shevchenko
NES Member
just logged in and it let me add the jpeg to the "electronic documents" section, fingers crossed, thank for the help!No you should be able to go back in and amend it by adding evidence. We forgot one time and went back in a couple hours later and attached .jpeg front and back and it was fine.
I know others here have forgotten as well, perhaps they can give you more detailed directions as honestly I cannot remember the process.
Yup I forgot to upload mine initially and then uploaded it later on. Got approved.
CoastieRon
NES Member
Silencer Shop atf eforms update
Silencer Shop News: ATF eForms has launched! Tap into ATF eForms, now!
www.silencershop.com
If this is true.....
Mass-diver
NES Member
Just submitted another form 1 last week. The current electronic system is such garbage, I hope the new one is a little more user friendly.
email from the ATF posted 11/29, so yes it's a real thing.Silencer Shop atf eforms update
Silencer Shop News: ATF eForms has launched! Tap into ATF eForms, now!
If this is true.....
ATF Form 4 thread. Process and approvals!
Shevchenko
NES Member
just got the approval email, 6 days since submitted
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Existing Users - First Time Login Steps (docx, 1.75 MB)
Shevchenko
NES Member
I'm on the gov team at my work, and I'd add a month to that finish time bare minimum. anytime our military customers do updates to their network/systems it's a nightmare, I can't imagine the ATF are any more competent
Just submitted a form 1 for an SBR to be built off of an 80% Weird thing is, even though I completed the process and submitted, and paid, on eforms it still says "draft" as opposed to "in process/review" as was the case with my form 1 suppressors. I havent messed with it, but I can log in and edit the form 1 it looks like, even though I completed the process and paid with confirmation of payment email from the atf?
If anything I think it might be delayed while they research the unknown manufacture, which is me, because its an 80. I did submit a picture of the 80 under the electronic documents, or whatever it is, the field after line items.
meh, its only been a day, I'll give it week before I call.
If anything I think it might be delayed while they research the unknown manufacture, which is me, because its an 80. I did submit a picture of the 80 under the electronic documents, or whatever it is, the field after line items.
meh, its only been a day, I'll give it week before I call.
This will always happen if you enter a unique description. If you choose from the drop down it will go pending. The sort of good news is pending research has been v clearing in about 14 days. For a while there it was 90 to 120 days.
Cap'n Mike
NES Member
Did you list FMI under manufacturers code? That could be holding things up.
Identification of the maker or manufacturer of a firearm on Form 1:
If the applicant is creating the firearm (for example, a silencer or finishing an ‘incomplete receiver’ (that is not yet a firearm)), the applicant will be the maker under the NFA and GCA. Thus, when completing the Line Item (Add Firearm) field, click the “By Manufacturer Code’ button and enter the code ‘FMI’. This code stands for ‘Form 1 Registration’ and the entry can continue. If the model or model and caliber field is not found, click on the box next to ‘My item description is not in the list, create new item’ and add the model or caliber. You will be allowed to submit the application into our Pending Research function in which we validate the information submitted. This should be accomplished in two business days.
Using the FMI Manufacturer Code for the eForm 1 when Manufacturing you
When you use the eForm 1 registration system you might be manufacturing your own silencer or manufacturing an SBR from a non-serialized lower receiver. This means that in on Screen 5a – Line Item of the eForm 1 application you, your NFA gun trust or legal entity will not be listed as a...
www.nationalguntrusts.com
No,
I followed the guide on 80%lowers.com to a "T" and everything looked as it should per that source, however I admit your example seems more proper.
I did not. Thats a new one to me, but I've only done Form 1 suppressors.Did you list FMI under manufacturers code? That could be holding things up.
Identification of the maker or manufacturer of a firearm on Form 1:
If the applicant is creating the firearm (for example, a silencer or finishing an ‘incomplete receiver’ (that is not yet a firearm)), the applicant will be the maker under the NFA and GCA. Thus, when completing the Line Item (Add Firearm) field, click the “By Manufacturer Code’ button and enter the code ‘FMI’. This code stands for ‘Form 1 Registration’ and the entry can continue. If the model or model and caliber field is not found, click on the box next to ‘My item description is not in the list, create new item’ and add the model or caliber. You will be allowed to submit the application into our Pending Research function in which we validate the information submitted. This should be accomplished in two business days.
Using the FMI Manufacturer Code for the eForm 1 when Manufacturing you
When you use the eForm 1 registration system you might be manufacturing your own silencer or manufacturing an SBR from a non-serialized lower receiver. This means that in on Screen 5a – Line Item of the eForm 1 application you, your NFA gun trust or legal entity will not be listed as a...
I followed the guide on 80%lowers.com to a "T" and everything looked as it should per that source, however I admit your example seems more proper.
Shevchenko
NES Member
Had the weird glitch where my approved form 1 was sent to me with a "DRAFT" watermark on every page, clicked the "Ask an expert" told them what was up, 2 hours later I have a normal, approved copy.
The new and improved eForm site is live. It’s much faster moving, I did an eForm 1 in less than 5 minutes this morning.
You will need to reset your password first, just click forgot password on the main screen. When you log in you have to attest to four things and update your profile. After that you will go to the forms screen and your old docs will start porting over.
Go update your stuff!
You will need to reset your password first, just click forgot password on the main screen. When you log in you have to attest to four things and update your profile. After that you will go to the forms screen and your old docs will start porting over.
Go update your stuff!
Shevchenko
NES Member
ah, it emails you the temp pw but didn't tell me, now I have 22 emails haha whoops
Shit, only took me 5!
Shevchenko
NES Member
I may have become impatiently annoyed and hammered the "next" button a couple dozen times
What the F!
I go to change my password, and I keep getting "user name or password is incorrect"
I know its right.....
I got the temp password sent to me, which I entered, then it proceeded to tell me to change my password, which it then will not let me do because it says username or password is incorrect, well, how the hell did they send me a temp password if my user name is incorrect then?
I go to change my password, and I keep getting "user name or password is incorrect"
I know its right.....
I got the temp password sent to me, which I entered, then it proceeded to tell me to change my password, which it then will not let me do because it says username or password is incorrect, well, how the hell did they send me a temp password if my user name is incorrect then?
