I donated on and off to FPC, but the ATF pretending they have legislative powers means I'm going to donate every year from now on. Until America flushes finally flushes biden in the 2024 election, we're going to see more of this bullshit. I'm entirely convinced that biden was installed to attack patriotic and upright Americans.
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ATF issues rule change proposal regarding pistol braces
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I just don't get this. Maybe some lawyer can explain to me how being a member of an organization like FPC is a magic bullet providing relief against a "law" applying to you while it remains enforceable against people who aren't members. Do injunctions routinely apply to just certain classes rather than to the laws/regs themselves? Seems like pretty thin equal protection ice to a layman like me.
We FPC members are party to the lawsuit.
The way I understand it is that the injunction is granted to the party that brought the case before the court: FPC and GOA. And FPC and GOA are organizations comprised of members, so those members are granted the injunction.
I do get that, and since I'm a GOA member I guess I can tape their logo to my brace when I go the range to repel would be enforcers. It just seems that if there's a chance the plaintiffs would prevail, an injunction should apply to everyone. A judgment would, right? This is why I'm an engineer not a lawyer.
Also an engineer. The plaintiffs are going to just reject this overreach. If we had a gov that cared about the 2a, they would have cockslapped the ATF by now. A win is just a rejection of this and the ATF will just go at it again.
Chevy 2 65
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ATF does not make LAW. In a true court system of America the ATF would not be able to make BS unlawful rulings or whatever you what to called it,
The entire system is half ass and incorrect. Executive orders are another piles of horse shit, same for exigent circumstances.
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Yes.
Chevy 2 65
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STFU ...
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Boghog1
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Looks that way
NRA-ILA | NRA Challenges ATF Brace Rule
The National Rifle Association announced today the filing of an NRA-backed and supported lawsuit challenging the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives' (ATF) unlawful rule on stabilizing braces.
www.nraila.org
NHKevin
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Right, but Trump's ATF wasn't any better...
It wasn't good, but it was definitely not as bad. They went after rate of fire, not picatinny rails
They can just run ads on Fox News and tell the viewers that the NRA stopped Biden pistol gun brace thingy ban. Send us mo moneeeeeee
groundscrapers
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they law has already been created in 1934. They are just including braces under that.
bigbravehog
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I feel the same way about the NRA, but in some cases, they donate money to fund the cases.
Chevy 2 65
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Golddiggie
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Just joined SAF under the "Life" category... At all of $150 it's a bargain. I'll put it on my list of the orgs to donate additionally to as I'm able. I already have GOA and FPG on that list. I plan to do the lifetime with GOA soon.
Chevy 2 65
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Yep, talk is cheap.
ATF Pistol Brace Rule: An “Experiment of your Disposition”
With an enforcement deadline looming at the end of May, potentially affecting millions of stabilizing braces, the new ATF rule is – as the founders told us – a test or an “experiment of your…
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I want to see when locals actually clash or interfere with feds ... then you see if this is real. It won't happen.
Various states have declared not to follow the fed law, but none has done anything about it since Fort Sumter.
You also don't need to be all bellicose about it. If states want to flex their rights, financials is where it's at. Protect your local taxes from fed collection, curtail the moneytrain to DC and those deeds will carry more weight than these empty braggart statements will ever be.
CatSnoutSoup
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Jarret from Guns & Gadgets is tight with the GOA capital hill folks and for a couple days he has been trying to get his viewers to telephone their Reps and harass them about getting H.J. Res. 44 to the floor.
Did it have some effect? Perhaps, but for my part I will believe it when I see it being voted on, and that is when we will see which Republicans need to be voted off the island.
View: https://twitter.com/GunOwners/status/1666166583566188546?s=20
View: https://twitter.com/GunOwners/status/1666176662986190856?s=20
Did it have some effect? Perhaps, but for my part I will believe it when I see it being voted on, and that is when we will see which Republicans need to be voted off the island.
View: https://twitter.com/GunOwners/status/1666166583566188546?s=20
View: https://twitter.com/GunOwners/status/1666176662986190856?s=20
“IF you comply with the Act by using Stamped Papers, you fix, you rivet perpetual Chains upon your unhappy Country. You unnecessarily, voluntarily establish the detestable Precedent, which those who have forged your Fetters ardently wish for, to varnish the future Exercise of this new claimed Authority”ATF Pistol Brace Rule: An “Experiment of your Disposition”
With an enforcement deadline looming at the end of May, potentially affecting millions of stabilizing braces, the new ATF rule is – as the founders told us – a test or an “experiment of your…granitegrok.com
The cucks that rolled over to save $200 should have read this!
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Biden will veto. This is just congress pulling a "don't look at us". The ATF won't back down - they'll declare any firearm able to be fired from the shoulder position to be a rifle, and any rifle under 16 is already SBR territory.
