If you're in MA, palmetto will not ship lower receivers, even stripped ones, to MA FFLs.
Also, don't skimp on the BCG. It is the heart of your rifle. I can't tell very well from the picture, but the gas key staking looks a little anemic.
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Best rifle for around $600?
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If you're in MA, palmetto will not ship lower receivers, even stripped ones, to MA FFLs.
Also, don't skimp on the BCG. It is the heart of your rifle. I can't tell very well from the picture, but the gas key staking looks a little anemic.
Hmm, how about this:
Stag Arms lower assembly - $209
https://www.stagarms.com/lower-receiver-with-kit-installed/
Buttstock - $49
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M7XE2H0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
With abovementioned upper it is $510
Maybe check here to see if there is a decent BCG for $90 (hard to find, I know)
http://www.arpartsfinder.com/index.htm
This is fun, kinda like never-ending "looking to upgrade/build my computer" threads on tech forums...![[grin]](/xen/styles/default/xenforo/smilies.vb/041.gif "Grin [grin]")
Stag Arms lower assembly - $209
https://www.stagarms.com/lower-receiver-with-kit-installed/
Buttstock - $49
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M7XE2H0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
With abovementioned upper it is $510
Maybe check here to see if there is a decent BCG for $90 (hard to find, I know)
http://www.arpartsfinder.com/index.htm
This is fun, kinda like never-ending "looking to upgrade/build my computer" threads on tech forums...
I don't like that the SW does not have ejection port cover or forward assist.
Hmm, how about this:
Stag Arms lower assembly - $209
https://www.stagarms.com/lower-receiver-with-kit-installed/
Buttstock - $49
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M7XE2H0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
With abovementioned upper it is $510
Maybe check here to see if there is a decent BCG for $90 (hard to find, I know)
http://www.arpartsfinder.com/index.htm
This is fun, kinda like never-ending "looking to upgrade/build my computer" threads on tech forums...
As you're doing this don't forget to add shipping and transfer to total cost. Some of these companies charge a hefty price to ship so wait for "holiday" sales which seem to happen every couple weeks, sometimes they offer free shipping codes.
Hmm, how about this:
Stag Arms lower assembly - $209
https://www.stagarms.com/lower-receiver-with-kit-installed/
Buttstock - $49
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M7XE2H0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00
With abovementioned upper it is $510
Maybe check here to see if there is a decent BCG for $90 (hard to find, I know)
http://www.arpartsfinder.com/index.htm
This is fun, kinda like never-ending "looking to upgrade/build my computer" threads on tech forums...
Radical firearms has that same upper you were looking for on their website for $199 right now.
warwickben
bubba Kalashnikov
This.....some places will charge you more for small orders or a minimum shipping charge of 8.50$
By the time one of my friends finished his build he was almost 90$ worth of shipping! Plus the 40$ transfer fee.
Boghog1
NES Member
I never close the ejection port cover on my AR and only used the forward assist in basic training when they taught us to use it back in 85. Neither are needed in a rifle, especially if you are not in combat environment.
bfm
NES Member
So many jokes, so little time.
xtry51
NES Member
I'm actually a firm believer in having a forward assist, but the M&P is the best deal out there to get a RELIABLE AR in your hands.
If you feel confident building, by all means do it, but you'll end up spending more than $600 and it will take a while.
If you feel confident building, by all means do it, but you'll end up spending more than $600 and it will take a while.
Varmint
NES Member
Without forward assist how do you make sure the round is seated after a press check? I think there's a way to do it but can't remember.
warwickben
bubba Kalashnikov
Forgetting about the new ruger .
Regarding forward assist there are pages of arguments you can google up, no point copy-pasting them...
You don't NEED either for a range rifle but they are nice to have, IMHO.
I wish we could ask Mr. stoner as the original design didn't call for one?
Maybe its because im a lefty or maybe its my dads influence? I was brought up to not jam a firearm closed but rather clear it and re chamber...
I just don't think a absence of a forward assist or dust cover should be the deciding factor for a rifle ?
Maybe im just wrong ?
Varmint
NES Member
Well, I certainly don't want to eject a round when a tap of the forward assist would be just as good. You wouldn't want to leave a live round on the ground, that's how school's get locked down.
Plus you'd have to twiddle your thumbs when the Rifle 101 instructor is going over how to use a forward assist and dust cover.
xtry51
NES Member
I've personally seen conditions that create circumstances where a forward assist is required to get the gun back in action. I also like it for quick brass checks, as ejecting a round to check the status of the weapon is asinine.
Now, that said. The OP is looking for a first rifle and he wants it to be cheap. Those factors direct him towards the M&P. It's a known good quality rifle that functions and has a warranty. If I could talk the OP into building a nice BCM gun and spending $1000-1200, I would. But the criteria given limit what I'm prepared to recommend as a RELIABLE rifle.
I have a bunch of PSA and PTAC stuff. The quality is marginal and I wouldn't bet my life on one. I certainly would not recommend a PSA build for a first timer.
If I had to bet my life on a cheap build vs a M&P with no FA/Ej.cover I choose the M&P every day of the week.
Now, that said. The OP is looking for a first rifle and he wants it to be cheap. Those factors direct him towards the M&P. It's a known good quality rifle that functions and has a warranty. If I could talk the OP into building a nice BCM gun and spending $1000-1200, I would. But the criteria given limit what I'm prepared to recommend as a RELIABLE rifle.
I have a bunch of PSA and PTAC stuff. The quality is marginal and I wouldn't bet my life on one. I certainly would not recommend a PSA build for a first timer.
If I had to bet my life on a cheap build vs a M&P with no FA/Ej.cover I choose the M&P every day of the week.
Varmint
NES Member
/thread - if the budget is truly $600, the M&P is the one to get.
Can't recommend the Ruger since it has 3 MA features you'd have to fix (for $80 or so total).
OfficerObie59
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CMP Field Grade M1 Garand is $630 to your door.
No ****ing brainer. I know, he wants an AR, but you can always get one of those...Garands from the CMP won't be around forever.
No ****ing brainer. I know, he wants an AR, but you can always get one of those...Garands from the CMP won't be around forever.
OP, get yourself a M&P sport or any other $600 range AR a sling,few mags and a case of ammo.
Come on down to a cmp shoot/match/clinic and get some good old fashion rifle shooting in under your belt......or come to a cmp shoot/match/clinic and have a go with a,M1.
Oct 11 @ Old Colony in Pembroke Ma. The club's M1s are very nice and 10 ring capable even with HXP,surplus......
Have fun.......
Come on down to a cmp shoot/match/clinic and get some good old fashion rifle shooting in under your belt......or come to a cmp shoot/match/clinic and have a go with a,M1.
Oct 11 @ Old Colony in Pembroke Ma. The club's M1s are very nice and 10 ring capable even with HXP,surplus......
Have fun.......
Exactly,
I'm curious though if anyone is old enough to remember training on the old slab side M16 how they handled a bolt failure to close or a chambering malfunction.
Also does S&W give any special instructions in the owners manual for handling the sport with out a forward assist?
It's not ideal, but can't you use your thumb in that cutout on the side of the carrier where the vent holes are and push it forward?
wizdoc2006
NES Member
Wasr 10, SKS or S&W sport. Any of those choices should fit your needs.
warwickben
bubba Kalashnikov
Mosin and ammo
beaker
NES Member
I'm a guessing but if your bolt didn't close you would have to cycle the action and hope for the best. If locked up you would have to mortar the buttstock while pulling the charging handle. If you lived through all that I would think you would have dropped the damn thing and grabbed a sidearm and/or got real low to the ground. There is a reason they added forward assist, because the troops needed it.
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