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Ok, I'll be the clueless person who asks. Why shouldn't you sign & date the original?Not until you have the license in hand. DO NOT SIGN & DATE the original license. Make copies and sign and date when you send to someone or have a copy with you when you think you might buy something, then sign and date. It won't be long until you get the packet.
Get a bound book so you will be legal on any transaction. I keep mine in the safe. Welcome to the "club"
Because you only get one, You make copies that need and original signature and date, and pass on.Ok, I'll be the clueless person who asks. Why shouldn't you sign & date the original?
As opposed to copying the pre-signed/dated original and sending that? Or do the people receiving it demand an original date/signature on their copies? I'm not trying to be difficult, just used to things that you're supposed to sign as soon as possible.Because you only get one, You make copies that need and original signature and date, and pass on.
Because the copy you provide to the other party isn't valid unless it has an original (not copied) signature.Ok, I'll be the clueless person who asks. Why shouldn't you sign & date the original?
What the members below said pretty much sums it up!Ok, I'll be the clueless person who asks. Why shouldn't you sign & date the original?
My understanding is that this only applies to objects acquired after you get the 03, right? IE, you don't have to add the Mosin you bought in '99 if you waited until today to get the C&R?I'm relatively new to the 03 world myself and was poking around last night and saw some requirements to include all C&R guns you buy or sell in your bound book regardless of whether you actually acquired them under the license. That was surprising (to me) and something that I bet people screw up pretty regularly. Said another way, spend a few minutes learning the rules before diving in.
That is my understanding as well.My understanding is that this only applies to objects acquired after you get the 03, right? IE, you don't have to add the Mosin you bought in '99 if you waited until today to get the C&R?
My understanding is that this only applies to objects acquired after you get the 03, right? IE, you don't have to add the Mosin you bought in '99 if you waited until today to get the C&R?
Sell? What's that?I think so, but if you ever sell that Mosin I think it then needs to be logged. I’m definitely not an expert though.
Aren't all books bound? Otherwise, they're just a stack of paper.
Edit: Here's the ATF explanation.
The firearms acquisition and disposition (A&D) record, also known as a “bound book”, is a permanently bound book or an orderly arrangement of loose-leaf pages which must be maintained at the business premises. The format must follow that prescribed in the regulations and the pages must be numbered consecutively.
[18 U.S.C. 923(g)(1)(A); 27 CFR 478.121 and
I've been using a $1.99 notepad for about 20 years.Yeah. I just used a narrow three-ring binder and some blank spreadsheets I did in Excel and then printed out. Easy-peasy Japaneezy.
This is correct. Also, if a gun turns 50+ while in your possession, but you obtained it prior to getting the C&R FFL, it does not get entered into the BB until you dispose of it (and acquisition is noted as "from prior collection" or something similar.My understanding is that this only applies to objects acquired after you get the 03, right? IE, you don't have to add the Mosin you bought in '99 if you waited until today to get the C&R?
I'm just going to quote this post.I'm relatively new to the 03 world myself and was poking around last night and saw some requirements to include all C&R guns you buy or sell in your bound book regardless of whether you actually acquired them under the license. That was surprising (to me) and something that I bet people screw up pretty regularly. Said another way, spend a few minutes learning the rules before diving in.
Good thing they specified a bound book otherwise we'd probably use a scroll!All codices are books. Not all books are codices. Here's an unbound book (also called a book roll.)
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Be ungovernableGood thing they specified a bound book otherwise we'd probably use a scroll!