Cancer & Firearms?

[Tater]

So I have just been diagnoses with stage 4 cancer and I own multiple firearms. I plan to leave everything I own to my daughter. She is applying for her LTC now. Can I just will her my firearms or should I transfer them to her prior to my passing. She is not into firearms and said she plans to keep 1 for protection and to remember me by.


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[rudiewhitebwoy]

INAL, but I believe you can put them in an NFA Trust. I'm really sorry about your situation.

 

[silversquirrel]

You should put them in your will but I suspect that is the least of your issues.
Its smart to have your affairs in order as they say, but focus on your health and quality of life. Spend time with her as much as you can. She will remember! Some cancers can be treated succesfully.
Best wishes

 

[pdm]

Before my dad passed, he put a letter in his safe specifically bequeathing all his firearms to me. When my dad passed, I just registered them all using the eFA10 portal, and then kept things that I liked or meant something, and sold off a bunch. There's a good thread here on handling firearms on death.

I'm sorry about your diagnosis, cancer sucks.

 

[Coda]

I can't offer any recommendations, but it is great that your Daughter is stepping up to help.

Very sorry about your situation.

 

[greencobra]

but I believe you can put them in an NFA Trust

sorry for your situation.

i'm thinking a trust is a little overkill for 4 guns. my way of thinking, let her choose the one she wants, transfer it to her, and sell the other 3 and let her have the money. a sad problem to have, i'm sure the right answer will show itself shortly.

 

[M1911]

I am so sorry.

I agree with greencobra. Have her decide which one she wants. Bequeath it to her in your will. Sell the other 3. To make it easier on you, I suggest you consider selling those three on consignment at a large dealer.

 

[appraiser]

1) sell off what she does not want, spend the money on a family trip.

2) specifically leave her as a bequest in your will, or in a codicil to the will any firearms you wish her to have, including serial numbers.

3) if you have good friends, offer the the guns she does not want to them at a fair price and I bet they get scooped up. They will have something to remember you by too.

 

[PappyM3]

That sucks.

Consider looking into some estate planning and getting a trust (NOT an NFA trust). For all your assets, not just the guns.

Avoid probate

Also, link her up with someone you trust, who’s into guns and who can help her not get fleeced on value for the ones she chooses to sell.

 

[greencobra]

spend the money on a family trip.

he better have 3 spectacular collector grade firearms to finance a family trip.. more likely, a dinner out with close loved ones.

 

[MaxStravinsky]

So sorry for your situation. I've thought about how I'd like to handle this when the time comes. I plan to do personal transfers if possible.

 

[Rockrivr1]

Just remember that Stage 4 is not a death sentence. Don’t give up hope. You can pull through and spend much more time with your daughter. Get an oncologist who specializes in your type of cancer and go from there.

Good luck!!

 

[Abe Froman]

Just remember that Stage 4 is not a death sentence. Don’t give up hope. You can pull through and spend much more time with your daughter. Get an oncologist who specializes in your type of cancer and go from there.

Good luck!!

This. While never good, depending on the type the prognosis can be surprisingly optimistic. Good luck!

 

[track65]

I know what your going through. I'm a monthly patient at Dana Farber Foxboro. Keep the faith,

 

[MAJoe]

Hoping all turns out okay.

My thoughts on the firearms, if you’re both in MA it doesn’t make too much of a difference. If it’s across state lines, it’s “easier” for them to be willed because you then don’t require an FFL. This is particularly good if you’re willing into MA because the roster will impact pistol transfers.

Willing is also one of the few legal ways to move preban mags in MA now.

 

[Individualist]

So I have just been diagnoses with stage 4 cancer and I own multiple firearms. I plan to leave everything I own to my daughter. She is applying for her LTC now. Can I just will her my firearms or should I transfer them to her prior to my passing. She is not into firearms and said she plans to keep 1 for protection and to remember me by.


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Sorry to hear that Tater. Have your daughter pick out what she wants and transfer it when she gets her LTC. Sell the rest. Hang in there and fight, fight, fight.

 

[LTCRN]

I'm so sorry to hear that you are sick with C and wish you the highest amount of hope in your fight. You should fight this horrendous disease as best you can through success or the end.
Transfer the one that she wants now. Place the other three in a will or trust, which ever one is best, and list your daughter as the beneficiary of your firearms. She may change her mind and want to keep the other three for sentimental reasons to remember you by or pass them on down to someone else in the family. If she still doesn't want them, she can easily sell them, but at least you gave her more time to think about it.

 

[Picton]

Not much to add on the probate question, OP, but you have my sympathy for having to deal with this and my best wishes going forward.

I'd transfer whatever she wants now, while you can take her out and watch her shoot it/them.

 

[citoriguy]

So sorry to hear about your health. I agree with others that have to let her choose what she wants to keep and sell the others.

Keep fighting this - Stage 4 doesn’t guarantee anything. It can be beat.

 

[Len-2A Training]

I'm very sorry about your situation. I wish you the best of luck in fighting the cancer. With the right doctor at Dana Farber, it is possible to beat the cancer.

Now to address the gun issue, etc.

MA gun laws do not recognize trusts for ownership of guns. They only recognize an individual owner with a LTC. This has been addressed a number ot times over the years within the LE community.

A trust is a good idea so that your Daughter can inherit everything without going thru the expensive and time-consuming probate process.

Transfer the gun she wants to her as soon as she gets her LTC. Sell the rest.

Be aware that there are some real a-hole chiefs out there who will literally confiscate every gun you owned as soon as they hear of your passing. It's been done before and documented here on NES. So you want all of that stuff gone before you pass.

 

[oldguy68]

Sorry to hear about your cancer.
Prayers sent.
Hang in there. Miracles happen.

 

[btnh6668]

f*** that shit. Keep fighting bro

 

[PappyM3]

f*** that shit. Keep fighting bro

Still smart to ensure things are in order so his daughter doesn’t get screwed. Bonus that those estate planning things will still be there after beating it.

 

[Reptile]

I know somebody who has stage 4. Next month will be their 3rd anniversary of diagnosis. Almost $2,000,000.00 in expensive drugs paid my Medicare and secondary insurance. Their bill is only $20,000.00. Pretty good deal. Only in the USA can you get that level of care.

I know a few other survivors also.

I don't want to give you false hope, but the "survival rates" on the internet years ago are no longer accurate due to some of these newer treatments.

Being that you live in Massachusetts, you will have access to the best doctors in the entire world.

1 out of 3 people get cancer if they live long enough.

It runs in my family, too.

I hope not to get it myself - but if I do - I'll be posting it on NES. I wont be needing a GoFundMe but I bet I could get some ideas on here how to survive.

I'll also be posting photos so I hope for your all sake that it wont be ass cancer. I posted already my colonoscopy pics so it wont be a stretch.

I only own one or two guns so I wont need to worry about getting rid of them.

My kin will end up with a treasure map with GPS coordinates for all the buried stuff but they might just want to keep it buried.

 

[FalArAk]

Sorry you have to go through this, lost my mom to it a few years ago and my GF just went through treatment last year.

I would transfer that one gin she wants and just sell the rest now and give her the cash.

 

[Broc Tuah]

So I have just been diagnoses with stage 4 cancer and I own multiple firearms. I plan to leave everything I own to my daughter. She is applying for her LTC now. Can I just will her my firearms or should I transfer them to her prior to my passing. She is not into firearms and said she plans to keep 1 for protection and to remember me by.


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I would transfer her the one she wants right away, but you can keep it (people, dont try to educate me on the law). Then add it to your Will "just in case", or if things get bad have her take it.

This will make the transition smooth during a very hard time.

I am sorry to hear you are going through this.
Stay positive.
Keep fighting.

 

[BroncoAZ]

We lost my mom to stage 4 lung cancer last May, sorry about the diagnosis. Guns would be the least of my worries. I would advise that you start putting your daughter on all your investment and bank accounts, vehicle registration, home deed, etc so she has access to deal with your accounts at some point. Medicare has a five year look back, so giving her a bunch of assets now doesn’t prevent them from possibly trying to collect from her later.

Now that Mom is gone we just finished this process with Dad. It took a couple months to get everything done, but hopefully everything will go smoothly when dad eventually passes. Hoping to have him around another 10 years, but he’s 83 with stage 3 kidney disease so who knows how long things can continue.

 

[Mark from ?]

We lost my mom to stage 4 lung cancer last May, sorry about the diagnosis. Guns would be the least of my worries. I would advise that you start putting your daughter on all your investment and bank accounts, vehicle registration, home deed, etc so she has access to deal with your accounts at some point. Medicare has a five year look back, so giving her a bunch of assets now doesn’t prevent them from possibly trying to collect from her later.

Now that Mom is gone we just finished this process with Dad. It took a couple months to get everything done, but hopefully everything will go smoothly when dad eventually passes. Hoping to have him around another 10 years, but he’s 83 with stage 3 kidney disease so who knows how long things can continue.

This....guns are just one thing. There are more important things which all should have been in trust years ago. We did this with my parents about 8 years ago now. House is in trust, and accounts have all been transferred/overseen by us, and my sister has all bills on autopay even though they are both still alive. Will has had to be adjusted once or twice for personal situations.

I do have a bunch of guns up there that my father owns that are mine technically and they are in the will to me.......he cant shoot anymore......but those will probably come down with me next time I do a drive, as Im not leaving them up there. I wanted to just to have them in an alternate place but that ship is sailing with MA being retarded. And there is no one left in the house with a permit.

Ive given what my dad wanted to my nephew already..the rest will go to my son when he gets situated with a permit in his state. M

My suggestion is you sell whatever you have that she doesn't want.....maybe someone here can help you with that if your not in the proper condition.
Reality is....take what you can get for it. Most guns are not a good investment and lose money. But if you can't shoot them they are worthless to you, and use the money for something else that would bring a positive outlook.

Im sorry you have to deal with this....

Keep fighting and hope that all goes well in the fight.

Good luck and Godspeed.

 

[Roof gunner]

It took my father in 7 months. I would give anything to have another day with him. If I can help you with anything please reach out. I don’t want your money. I know how hard things get. Roofgunner

 

[AFVet]

My wife is going through the same thing as you are. Hers is terminal and they flat out told us there is nothing they can do. Like some of the other guys here said , check into what specific type of cancer you have. there are actually a lot that can be managed and quite a few that can be cured now. Stage 4 is no longer the guaranteed death warrant that it used to be. Now it is down to certain types and their "transformations" during treatment.