Hello - I know this has been discussed in previous posts but how many folks out there in Massachusetts use a center console safe? Are they legal?
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Hello - I know this has been discussed in previous posts but how many folks out there in Massachusetts use a center console safe? Are they legal?
Legal? Nothing is legal in MA.
OP 'goin to jail.
Hi Maura!
Welcome.
Go GREEN.
All that...
Do you feel the center console safes are illegal?I'm holding out to hear OP's use-case which doesn't
end up with him jacked up on some felony.
No, but I can blow some smoke about them:Do you feel the center console safes are illegal?
Sorry in advance if my geometric logic gets the big Thumbs DownThank you
See the discussion in the thread COMMONWEALTH vs. Amaury REYES. @CrackPot hits the nail on the head with his first post.Sorry in advance if my geometric logic gets the big Thumbs Down
from those in the know.
You can read the entire decision here: REYES, COMMONWEALTH vs., 464 Mass. 245"Once the defendant left his motor vehicle and the firearm in it, he became subject to the storage statue because he was storing or keeping his firearm..."
This is the best line in the entire opinion so far. It clearly states that parked car is storage, not transport.
This does not resolve whether a locked glove compartment might be adequate under the storage statute. We are of the view that it might depending on the particular factual circumstances including the nature of the locking mechanism, whether the motor vehicle was also locked and alarmed, and ultimately whether in the circumstances it was adequate to "deter all but the most persistent from gaining access." This is a question of fact, properly decided by the fact finder at trial.
Thank you.See the discussion in the thread COMMONWEALTH vs. Amaury REYES. @CrackPot hits the nail on the head with his first post.
You can read the entire decision here: REYES, COMMONWEALTH vs., 464 Mass. 245
The decision has many useful tidbits of info in it but the biggest is that a parked car is storage not transport and that:
By any definition a Console Vault is considered a safe.
As to the Reyes case, the above says that there was conflicting testimony given as to whether the glove box was locked or not. The decision implied that if the glove box was locked in such a manner as to "deter all but the most persistent from gaining access” then it would satisfy the storage laws.
See the discussion in the thread COMMONWEALTH vs. Amaury REYES. @CrackPot hits the nail on the head with his first post.